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U.S. Army sez 'no can do' to Beretta M9A3 modification update.
2015-01-10
Posted by:Besoeker

#13  OS, you may have made some merchant's job real easy.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2015-01-10 18:48  

#12  5 feet thru the air? Really? A pistol has that much power? I've seen it on TeeVee but Imalways wondered if it was true.

F= MA. How much F a .45 got?
We can use 80 Kg as the mass, need to sub 5 feet for 5=1/2AT^2.

So we solve for something and then cancel out some extraneous shit that's confusing and come up with, ummm, no.
Posted by: Shipman   2015-01-10 18:03  

#11  Glock 23 for me. Absolutely reliable wet dry dusty frozen or neglected. Dead easy to maintain. Compact enough to carry comfortably in a drop holster or a chest harness or even tucked into an ACU pocket, plus easy to handle in close quarters. The 40 S&W round is a one shot stopper - Austin texas 1 shot at 100 yards. And It carries 13 rounds per standard mag not 7 (most frequently ops use the 15 round standard-sized mag).
Posted by: OldSpook   2015-01-10 14:22  

#10  I like my 1911A1. Use low temp synthetic lubricant in winter sparingly. Have Wilson Combat 8 cartridge 47D mags. Don't have malfunctions.

Alaska State Troopers use Glocks which seem to be reliable in cold soaks and neglect for them.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2015-01-10 13:47  

#9   Now think drug crazed [insert your favorite adjective here] fanatic.

Actually, think AQI guys (predecessors to the Islamic State) injecting adrenaline directly into their heart like they did during the battle of Fallujah.
Posted by: frozen al   2015-01-10 13:29  

#8  For years the .22 Beretta was the obligatory weapon of the Mossad actives. And it may still be. Also obligatory, two shots.

Posted by: Ulique Pelosi8805   2015-01-10 12:14  

#7  we're fighting horses now?

That was one of the 'requirements' when they picked up the M1911. We still had cavalry. They wanted to take out anyone else riding the beast. Seemed to work well for a long time as a base line. Now think drug crazed [insert your favorite adjective here] fanatic. Got to be PC these days, so, yes, drop a 'horse'.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-01-10 11:54  

#6  I loved my .45 when I had one as an issue sidearm. When I went to Iraq, the first thing I did was to buy one to keep with me. In Libya, I found one and kept it under my pillow.

Why do I love the .45? Because you do not have to be a good shot to be effective.

You don't have to center punch a bad guy three times or hit him between the eyes to take him out. A hit, anywhere, will take an assailant down. Hit them in the foot, shoulder, hand, arm, leg, ANYWHERE and the fight is over.

That fact is essential in both self defense and combat because stress, fear, and groping around in the dark does not make for excellent marksmanship.

Note to Ordinance folks, a .45 will shoot through a wall, will a 9 mm?

Can a 9mm hit a guy in body armor so hard that it breaks ribs and induces shock? Can a 9mm hit a guy in body armor and knock them about 5 feet through the air?

Give me a .45 any day. A woman can use one, she only has to shoot once in the direction of the sound to cause a retreat.

A .45 is also very loud in close quarters something a 9mm is not and that is also a tactical advantage.

Only thing better than a .45 ACP is the .45 Long Colt used in the old Peacemaker.
Posted by: Bill Clinton   2015-01-10 11:52  

#5  Pretty good, B.
Posted by: badanov   2015-01-10 10:32  

#4  we're fighting horses now?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2015-01-10 10:31  

#3  Like what? 30-06 side arm
Posted by: chris   2015-01-10 09:35  

#2  How about something that drop a horse with one shot? It's called stopping power.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-01-10 07:58  

#1  Innovative new concept pistol in diagram at right:
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-01-10 04:05  

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