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| Why the 'Prius Driving, Composting' Set Fears Vaccines |
| 2015-02-03 |
| h/t Donald Sensing ...I talked to a public health official and asked him what's the best way to anticipate where there might be higher than normal rates of vaccine noncompliance, and he said take a map and put a pin wherever there's a Whole Foods. I sort of laughed, and he said, "No, really, I'm not joking." It's those communities with the Prius driving, composting, organic food-eating people. |
| Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
| #21 So the problem fixes itself ? Actually, it will. In a couple generations. You just need enough sick kids. At one time, these were common and dreaded diseases. But vaccinations let us win the war against those microbial sumbitches. And now, only our grand parent's generation remembers that world. Why get vaccinated against a disease no one remebers, eh? |
| Posted by: SteveS 2015-02-03 22:26 |
| #20 One of the more intriguing headlines I've seen in awhile! |
| Posted by: Hupineger Glomomp0034 2015-02-03 21:04 |
| #19 This is not a story about lefties being stupid. They know that if everyone else gets vaccinated they get the benefit without the risks. And yes, there are risks. The only 'stupid' here is people doing what they are told simply because they are told. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2015-02-03 20:36 |
| #18 My family are all vaccinated, BTW. But we thought about it first Well, that's good - I understand the risk of contagion is higher due to the recycled air in the bunkers. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2015-02-03 18:51 |
| #17 Except the old and weak can still catch the measles, i think. Despite innoculations. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2015-02-03 18:28 |
| #16 you start to get clusters of disease - little local mini-epidemics. (hello, California!). So the problem fixes itself ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2015-02-03 17:55 |
| #15 An interesting thing about diffusion processes, like the spread of a disease through a susceptible population, is that there is a tipping point where you go rapidly from "not very much" to "a whole *bleep*load". With everyone vaccinated, you have herd immunity and no epidemic. A small percentage of 'free riders' doesn't change this. But as the number of unvaccinated rises, you start to get clusters of disease - little local mini-epidemics. (hello, California!). Increase the unvaccinated percentage a bit more and suddenly the system transitions from little clusters of infection to a full-blown epidemic. The vaccinated population is still fine, but if you didn't get a shot, it sucks to be you - and the people you come in contact with. It will be interesting to see if we reach the tipping point. If we do, the change will be abrupt. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2015-02-03 17:51 |
| #14 Yeah, Rand Paul said some stupid things yesterday about having 'heard' of a connection between vaccines and insanity. no studies, nothing. He's a doctor and he's making inuendos of a very dangerous sort. Generally liked him but he lost my vote yesterday. Too bad nobody can get the anti-vaccine people to stand against illegal immigration as that's the most likely source of outbreaks coming into the country and shredding their perfect anti-vaccine communities. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2015-02-03 14:33 |
| #13 'Medical mystery' still stumps doctors amid outbreak of poliolike paralysis |
| Posted by: Fred 2015-02-03 12:48 |
| #12 You are all missing the fricken point. The main anti-vaxxers are not anti-government (i.e. Tea Party), they are quite the opposite - progressive-liberals who want to raise "organic" kids, and generally have one child who is then treated like mommy and daddy's special snowflake. The distrust "big pharma" becsue of "the Kock Brothers", and their lefty educational result of hating capitalism. There's a reason Oregon and Vermont top the unvaccinated list and measles is rampant in California, yet Mississippi is the highest percentage vaccinated and lowest incidence of measles. It aint "anti-government". Its half educated idiots thinking they know more than they do, buying in to the guru-of-the-moment so they can be properly conforming "non-conformists" and earth-first enviro leftys, and sound properly anti-establishment despite them being the establishment. They dont drive a Prius because it makes economic sense for their situation, they drive it to fit in and fit expectation of their moneyed-class leftard friends and society-bubble that they live in. Heaven forbid that they should drive an SUV, shop other than at boutiques and Whole Foods (no Kroger or Walmart for them), eat anything non-organic or not gluten free, and have more than 1.4 children like the plebes. This is all about how the upper class in liberal areas has defined itself so lefty that it has produced imbeciles. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2015-02-03 12:40 |
| #11 One of the things that amazes me about these Hollyweird types is that they are oh, so careful to only eat organically grown vegetables, exercise regularly, etc. etc. They refuse to have their children vaccinated. Yet, the cheerfully have themselves injected with Botox, which uses one of the most toxic substances known. |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2015-02-03 12:04 |
| #10 intelligence never equaled wisdom. Wizard of Oz - Why, anybody can have a brain. That's a very mediocre commodity. Every pusillanimous creature that crawls on the Earth or slinks through slimy seas has a brain. Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have. But they have one thing you haven't got: a diploma. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2015-02-03 12:02 |
| #9 Being intelligent doesn't amount to nearly as much as it once did. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2015-02-03 11:59 |
| #8 Polio vaccine makes girls unsubmissive and bookish and shrinks boys' pee-pees so they're eentsy little mushrooms. When the gated community set decides it's not only Moslems it happens to the iron lungs will be back in this counry, too. Being intelligent doesn't give a person common sense, no more than it gives them good manners or empathy. |
| Posted by: Fred 2015-02-03 11:44 |
| #7 It's actually pretty simple. Anti-vaxxers don't trust the government. Government says get vaccinated. That instantly raises suspicion. Does anyone here seriously doubt that Champ and his underlings would scruple to slip something into your vaccine if they could? Of course not. The Left is just as wary of the government -- in their own special way. Keep in mind these are vegan, localvore, kombucha drinking, aromatheraphy using hippy dipsters. They want to be healthy. More than most. And they don't trust government (or business for that matter) to help. Which makes perfect sense. The government has been telling us what to eat since the 50's. We've been getting fatter and sicker ever since. My family are all vaccinated, BTW. But we thought about it first. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2015-02-03 10:57 |
| #6 Actually, AH9418, stupidity is like deep, deep frosting on a scrumptious cake. Especially for those arrogant ones that can't help out point out their superiority and then demonstrate the opposite. |
| Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 2015-02-03 10:10 |
| #5 "stupid" means "knowing better, but doing it anyway" Stupidity has little to do with intelligence or education, except that the more you know, the greater opportunities you have to -- be stupid. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2015-02-03 09:57 |
| #4 Why? They are stupid. Next question. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2015-02-03 09:42 |
| #3 Yeh, well I just sold my Prius. I don't trust the government, pharma, pro migrants, or anyone else for that matter. But, I own a daycare and preschool. No immunizations means no enrollment in my book. Anyone who doesn't immunize his kids is a fool. A Prius hardly means gated community, you may be thinking Tesla. |
| Posted by: jvalentour 2015-02-03 08:40 |
| #2 Same attitude as in 'you can't have guns, but we can hire armed private security for ourselves'. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2015-02-03 07:56 |
| #1 "No, really, I'm not joking." It's those communities with the Prius driving, composting, organic food-eating people. The well-to-do, educated, the untrusting of big-pharma, untrusting of pro-migrant government, yes the gated community crowd, why can't we just blame them and move on ? I'm not joking ! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2015-02-03 03:43 |