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White House Hits Back at Bush: Qaeda Wasn't in Iraq prior to 2003 Invasion
2015-04-30
[ALMANAR.LB] The White House has brushed off former President George W. Bush's recent criticisms of the President Brack Obama's foreign policy, saying that al-Qaeda-linked forces of Evil were not in Iraq before the 2003 invasion of the country by Bush.
They were there under a different name, sheltered in Iran and harassing the Kurds. The orgaization was named al-Tawhid wal-Jihad and it was occasionally active in Europe. In Jordan he helped found Jund al-Sham, which got him jugged for awhile.
White House front man Josh Earnest"I do think that we've made the case aggressively before, and I think that's backed up by extensive evidence, that there are links between al Qaeda ... and ISIL. And the fact is al Qaeda was not in Iraq prior to President Bush's decision to commit significant American military resources on the ground in that country," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told news hounds on Monday.
It's another flat out lie. Zarq built his organization out of at least three separate but kindred groups. In the al-Qaeda chain of command he reported to Abu Zubaida and then, I'm guessing, to Zawahiri.
During a closed-door gathering of Jewish donors over the weekend, Bush said Obama withdrew American troops from Iraq too quickly in 2011 and paved the way for ISIL. He also urged Obama not to remove sanctions imposed against Iran over the country's nuclear program following a possible final agreement.

"In order to be an effective president... when you say something, you have to mean it," Bush said at the Republican Jewish Coalition event in Las Vegas.

Earnest also tweaked Bush by suggesting Obama was elected primarily as a result of the American public rebuking the Bush administration's foreign policy decisions.

"The fact that President Bush has a different perspective and a different philosophy when it comes to foreign policy, isn't just a well-known difference [between them]," he added. "In the minds of many people, it's the principle reason that President B.O. is sitting in the Oval Office right now.
Posted by:Fred

#16  Earnest also tweaked Bush by suggesting Obama was elected primarily as a result of the American public rebuking the Bush administration's foreign policy decisions.


After 8 years, Iraq was as under control as could be expected. Obama was elected because the liberal desire to allow the first black president, an unknown at that, occupy the oval office in American history, was more compelling than any potential threat to world peace at that time.

Until Obama decided to reverse all of that by arming anyone from Mexican Cartels to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664    2015-04-30 18:37  

#15  Pappy ~ Thanks for the background data fwd. Will take me a few hours to digest. My initial scan explains what appears to be taking place in Iran.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-04-30 18:36  

#14  Sounds like the White House needs to bone up on its foreign policy.

Earnest also tweaked Bush by suggesting Obama was elected primarily as a result of the American public rebuking the Bush administration's foreign policy decisions.

Ah, when Obama defeated Bush in 2008. Go back to selling Mellow Yellow.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2015-04-30 18:12  

#13  Also,

Iran's Role
Posted by: Pappy   2015-04-30 17:59  

#12  Meneer:

Islamic Popular Conference

Same topic, different source (PDF)
Posted by: Pappy   2015-04-30 17:58  

#11  For a guy without an identifiable foreign policy, Obumble is getting a little heady.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-04-30 17:11  

#10  Even if they were not in Iraq...

Believe me, they were. They fought against the Kurds and USSF during the 2003 invasion, and Zarqawi was in Bagdad.
Posted by: frozen al   2015-04-30 15:14  

#9  Even if they were not in Iraq I believe it makes sense to draw them into a zone where we can bomb the crap out of them .
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-04-30 14:55  

#8  Qaeda Wasn't in Iraq prior to 2003 Invasion

Only if you aren't paying attention.
Posted by: gorb   2015-04-30 13:13  

#7  Throughout the period 1991-1996 Iraqi intelligence was in constant contact with Bin Laden. This continued after Bin Laden moved to Afghanistan and even after 9/11.

Interesting factoid Clyde. You got any supporting documents, links, etc.? Might be something interesting to toss into my UBL folder.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-04-30 12:21  

#6  After Iraqis attended the first Popular Arab and Islamic Conference held in Khartoum in April 1991, Abd al-Samed al-Ta'ish, a high ranked Iraqi intelligence agent and 35 other Iraqi intelligence officers arrived in Khartoum in July 1991 and there established a base of operations. Al Ta'ish himself was named Iraq ambassador to the Sudan and served as such until summer 1998. Throughout the period 1991-1996 Iraqi intelligence was in constant contact with Bin Laden. This continued after Bin Laden moved to Afghanistan and even after 9/11.
Posted by: Clyde Borgia7976   2015-04-30 10:40  

#5  AQ ~= ISIS
ISIS~= Saddam's Baath 'special forces'
Therefore, AQ has effectively been in Iraq for decades, except when they fled to Syria.
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-04-30 09:27  

#4  And Iran was not in charge of parts of Iraq prior to Obama.
Posted by: airandee   2015-04-30 09:10  

#3  Yea, yea, yea.... Little Black Sambo was actually an Irish lad from Cork, and Saddam didn't have any WMD either.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-04-30 07:40  

#2  Seems multiple violations of the original cease fire agreement were enough justification. Enough for o'Bill to launch a lot of cruise missiles around too.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-04-30 07:36  

#1  good we took saddam and gadaffi out but we should have kept troops in till we got a settled govt.

Afghanistan is all about getting iran and Pakistan to stop meddling.

in my eyes iran and Pakistan are the biggest enemies in the region followed by the gulf states.
Posted by: paul   2015-04-30 05:42  

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