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| Obama cites Kirkuk and Kobani as examples of success against ISIS |
| 2015-07-08 |
[RUDAW.NET] In a speech at the Pentagon on Monday US President Barack ObamaReady to Rule from Day One... said that progress has been made in the fight against the Islamic State ...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allaharound with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not reallyMoslems.... (ISIS), with coalition "Altogether, ISIL has lost over a quarter of the populated areas it had seized in Iraq," said Obama. "ISIL's strategic weaknesses are real." Obama said that local groups on the ground have proven effective in pushing back ISIS in many areas, mentioning Kirkuk, ... a thick stew of Arabs, Turkmen, Kurds, and probably Antarcticans, all of them mutually hostile most of the time... djinn-infested Mosul ... the home of a particularly ferocious and hairy djinn... Dam, Tikrit, and Kobani as examples. "In the past year we've seen when we have effective partners on the ground, ISIL can be pushed back," Obama said. Obama vowed that all elements of American power would be involved in fighting the krazed killer organization. The US President said that ISIS is posing a threat to all countries in the region and therefore all nations need to do more in order to defeat the group militarily and ideologically. "This is not simply a military effort," he said. "Ideologies are not defeated by guns. They're defeated with better ideas." He added: "In order for us to defeat terrorist groups like ISIL and al-Qaeda, we must discredit their ideology. This broader challenge of countering violent extremism," Obama who said that the US is not in war with Islam, said that efforts should be made to stem the flow of imported muscle into Iraq and Syria. "Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas. We will never be at war with Islam," he said. Obama said that the US has stepped up its fight against ISIS' online recruitment efforts and he encouraged countries with large Moslem populations to increase economic opportunities for young people to prevent them from joining radical groups. "This larger battle for hearts and minds is going to be a generational struggle," Obama said. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #9 "We will never be at war wid Islam" > Wehell, To paraph "THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON"S CAPTAIN AMERICA = "RADICAL ISLAM IS AT WAR WID US"! Speaking of "generational struggle" ... * TOPIX > [RCP] OBAMA'S LONG-TERM STRATEGY FOR DEFEATING ISIS LEAVES PROBLEMS FOR [new/next]GENERATIONS. * SAME > [USJCS Chair] DEMPSEY DESCRIBES ISIL STRATEGY, "UNCERTAIN GLOBAL SECURITY". NUTSHELL, Dempsey says that, thus far, ... > US-ALLIED Islamist Enemies are getting increasingly STRONGER. > US ALLIES are increasingly reliant or dependent on US Materiel + Other DIRECT SUPPORT/MILAID for battlefield success + operations - widout it only God knows iff they can defeat the ISIS + Qaeda Boyz, etal. on their own. > US-SPECIFIC COMPARATIVE ADVANTAGES STEADILY DECREASING = MINIMIZED. * TOPIX > OBAMA'S NEW IRAQ STRATEGY BOILS DOWN TO "DON'T LOSE" - BLOOMBERG VIEW. Ditto as per agz CHINA in East-South China Seas??? * WORLD NEWS > [Business Insider] US STILL DOESN'T HAVE A STRATEGY THAT HAS CHANCE OF DEFEATING ISIS. * BIGNEWSNETWORK > ASHTON CARTER [admits]: US HAS TRAINED AN "AWFULLY SMALL NUMBER OF ["Moderate"]SYRIAN REBELS", far far below expected target of 5,400. As per CNN AM, things got a little testy wid John Mccain on the subject while Carter was testifying in committee on the Hill - see below. * RELATED DAILY STAR > MCCAIN SUGGESTS US "LOSING" AGZ ISIS [Calls Obama Admin's claims of success "DELUSIONAL/SELF-DELUSIONAL"]. * RELATED LUCIANNE > WHILE HOUSE ADMITS NOT ENOUGH SYRIAN REBELS TRAINED. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2015-07-08 22:50 |
| #8 Ideologies might not be defeated by guns, but it is Nukes 1 Shinto 0. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2015-07-08 20:48 |
| #7 Remember when the ISJV was about to overrun Kobani, and Team Obama started distancing itself from the impending capture and slaughter of its residents, "Oh, Kobani? Just a little crossroads town, to biggie." Or, straight from the horse's mouth: Speaking tonight, the US Secretary of State, John Kerry, suggested that preventing the fall of Kobani was not a strategic US objective. “As horrific as it is to watch in real time what is happening in Kobani, you have to step back and understand the strategic objective,” he said. October 8, 2014, Independent UK |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2015-07-08 18:49 |
| #6 Yes. I'm sure the ISJV will trade it all for gay marriage, free contraception, and feminism. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2015-07-08 12:40 |
| #5 Well the towns being overrun by ISIS is a victory in Obumble's eyes. He WANTS them to win. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2015-07-08 09:49 |
| #4 "Ideologies are not defeated by guns" - maybe not by guns alone, but if the opponent ideology is using guns your ideology had better be able to defend itself. |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2015-07-08 08:33 |
| #3 "Ideologies are not defeated by guns" must be the new catchphrase. He says it twice in the six sentences quoted, and approaches the idea once, for a total of 50%. Perhaps this is a non-representative sample, but listening to that speech must have been excruciating. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2015-07-08 08:01 |
| #2 Were they successes? Sort of, in a 'last man standing' sense. Did he have anything to do with them? Well, he was alive on the planet at the same time, and apparently all things flow from his selfness. |
| Posted by: ed in texas 2015-07-08 07:30 |
| #1 I guess future historians will call us Civilization of the Shameless. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2015-07-08 02:17 |