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Home Front: Politix

American decline may be irreversible

2015-07-24

h/t Donald Sensing
[Examiner] During the Obama Administration, a frequent rallying cry among conservatives has been the need to "take our country back." The Obama era has brought the fundamental change that the future president promised in 2008, but has left many Americans feeling that the country is on the wrong track.

Much of the focus on restoring America is centered on restoring Republicans --constitutional conservatives in particular -- to the White House. Winning the election of 2016, however, will prove much easier than reversing American decline. Many of the problems faced by the United States are in reality merely symptoms of deeper problems that may well prove impossible to fix, even with committed conservative Republicans in control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.

Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#13 Problem is the moochers and looters outnumber the producers

Posted by: CrazyFool 2015-07-24 23:58

#12 At this stage, the US' self-retreat is in its early phases - Anti-US US Globalist POTUS Obama wants the US-World to falsely or surreally believe the US Superpower is "weak/declining" while it continues to quietly entrench or re-trench vee coop wid Regional Allies, e.g. "PIVOT/
RETURN TO ASIA".

Hence no need to sink Pacific Islands just yet.

Instead of cementing its image andor credibility wid our traditional Allies, THE BAMMER ADMIN DESIRES TO ALLOW US ALLIES TO BELIEVE US COMMITTMENT = TREATY OBLIGATIONS TO THEM IS "DOUBTFUL" OR "QUESTIONABLE", ostensibly in order to foster or empower reliance by our Allies on the OWG Global Federal Union(s) in their particular regions as NOT HEADED OR LED BY THE US.

Thus we have ...

* MANILA TIMES > "FLEECED, BAMBOOZLED" KERRY DEFENDS IRAN DEAL.

* TOPIX > [Washington Times] ISIS SEKS TO ESTALISH FUNCTIONING,LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT [Governance] AS ITS TERRITORY GROWS.

* SAME > [AEI] SORRY, US, IRAN IS NOT GOING TO DEFEAT THE ISIS FOR YOU.

* SAME > [Jerusalem Post] OPINION: ARMING ALL SIDES FOR NUCLEAR WAR.

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [Independent.UK] US ACCUSATIONS THAT RUSSIA IS NOT RESSPECTING ITS SNIEGHBORS SOVEREIGNTY ARE "CONFRONTATIONAL", SAYS MOSCOW.

Kremlin Spox Dmitry Peskov.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > GET READY, JAPAN, RUSSIA HAS ITS OWN ISLANDS- BUILDING PROJECT [Military-Civilian Buildup = Kurils]| THE NATIONAL INTEREST BLOG.

* WORLD NEWS > [Japan News] CHINA SETS SIGHTS ON EAST CHINA SEA, FEAR GROWS BEIJING COULD MONITOR ALL OF ADIZ, i.e. "plug the gaps/loopholes" in its already declared ECS ADIZ wid the new islands China is building or improving in the South China Sea.

* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > GLOBAL TIMES: EXPERT: GUAM [+ CNMI] IS FAR WAY FROM THE US, WHY DOESN'T THE US GIVE THEM UP?

D *** NGIT, YEAH, WHY DOESN'T THE US = OBAMA GIVE US UP???

Lastly, as per #9, I'm afraid wid both the GOP + Dems goin' "Unitarian" Socialist, IT MAY TAKE A DE FACTO "CIVIL WAR 2", OVERSEAS MILPOL DISASTER, OR OTHER SEVERE OR CATASTROPHIC COMBO for your post to come true.

Posted by: JosephMendiola 2015-07-24 22:55

#11 Lest we fergit, + to paraph 1990's CLINTONISM > THERE ARE NO COMMUNISTS AND FASCISTS IN WASHINGTON DC, ONLY COMMUNISTS AND LIMITED COMMUNISTS IN WASHINGTON DC.

Also ala 1990'S CLINTONISM = "THE US-N-ONLY-THE-US MUST BE RESTRAINED AND CONTROLLED".

Our mighty 21st Century, post-9-11 Unitarian Anti-Unitarian GOP-Dem Establishment.

* US-LED ANTI-US OWG-NWO + GLOBALISM = EX-SOLE-SUPERPOWER-SOON-TO-BE-ONE-OF-MANY-OWG-CO-SUPERPOWERS AMERIKA IS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY HELPING ITS DEDICATED ENEMIES ANDOR WANNABES, ETC. GET MILPOL-GEOPOL STRONGER RELATIVE TO ITSELF.

THE US-N-ONLY-THE-US MUST UNILATER GIVE UP ITS POST-1945, COLD WAR, + 9-11 SOLE SUPERPOWER INFLUENCE-N-AUTHORITY AROUND THE WORLD TO THE NEW HIGHER OWG-NWO + ITS NEW CO-SUPERPOWER SIBLINGS PUTINIST RUSSIA, CHINA, + IRAN, OTHER? + WHILE SOMEHOW ALSO N-O-T BEING EXISTENTIALLY THREATENED OR DESTROYED IN THE PROCESS BY SAME OR OTHER.

"NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON", ... OR "SOCIALISM", Marxism, etc.

Iff the pro-OWG, Secularism-happy/demanding Marxists-Commies-Globalists + aligned believe they can control the [Theo-Socialist] Radical Islamists-Jihadists = Soon-to-be-Nukulaar Hard Boyz + Global Jihad, unfortunately I see nothing in the present to indicate that they can or will.

AFAIK the background as to why my Ancestors + PreCestors = 1960's-1970's Guam Taotamonas gave me visions of a STILL-RETREATING, STILL "WEAK/DECLINING" FUTURE USA deciding to sink Guam + other strategic Pacific islands to deny agz CHINA, etal. in SELF-PRESERVING "A2/AD" IS BEING SHAPED OR FORMED AS WE SPEAK.

Posted by: JosephMendiola 2015-07-24 22:23

#10 The left has gone Marxist. The Republicans in DC have shifted left. One of the few conservatives in DC lashed out at McConnell today on the Senate floor.

And millions of foreign nationals continue to flood in illegally.

As Dorothy said in the Wizzard of Oz, Dorothy: "Lions, and tigers, and bears! Oh, my!"

Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2015-07-24 19:49

#9 Reagan followed Carter. We went through a significant decline under Carter. The U.S. can come back if we have the will.

Posted by: JohnQC 2015-07-24 18:47

#8 I just reread Heinlein's Expanded Universe, published in 1980. Toward the end he discussed the nations's financial situation, in the context of it already being his long-since predicted Crazy Years. As he described it, in 1980 when the book was published America's federal debt was already too high to be paid back, never mind what was owed at the state and local level. It is considerably worse now, a thing he did not live to see, having died shortly after publication. Nonetheless, he had faith that after a really nasty crash, American hard work and inventiveness would put us back on track to prosperity.

Posted by: trailing wife 2015-07-24 13:03

#7 Unless Americans elect the only candidate who knows how to survive bankruptcy in 2016.

Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2015-07-24 12:52

#6 Who America ends up enslaved to when all the debt causes the house of cards to come crashing down is Who will determine Americas future.

Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2015-07-24 12:43

#5 I agree with Bobby, a Reagan/Thatcher type figure could reverse the decline. I'm not sure I see such a figure yet, but I have hopes Walker with all he's done so far and Cruz with his boldness confronting the media might somehow turn out to be so.

I also hope we get a wave election that replaces both Dems and Pubs with tea party Republicans, because our current political class is way to comfortable with the decline.

Posted by: rjschwarz 2015-07-24 08:55

#4 Civil wars have a tendency to sort out a lot of this kind of stuff. All the kings horses and all the kings men, can't put Humpty together again.

Posted by: Procopius2k 2015-07-24 08:19

#3 Ronald Reagan was transformative, despite the media's attempts to hogtie him. So where is Reagan when you need him? If we found him, how would he get past the media?

Posted by: Bobby 2015-07-24 07:43

#2 I agree the decline will be very challenging to overcome. Mostly because both major political parties do not have the intestinal fortitude to make the tough painful decisions. If the republicans win they will be more focused on reelection and rewarding cronies than reversing the decline.

The social issues are rarely reversible and usually grow; so get prepared for polygamy and affirmative action for transgenders and other made up classes of people.

Posted by: Airandee 2015-07-24 07:34

#1 From the article: "We might follow in the footsteps of Europe’s social democracies with a generation or more of stagnation and decline."
Delete "might" from the above. USA has either been stagnant or declining for ~20 years now.

Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2015-07-24 07:03

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