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Hildebeest relents, gives private email server to Justice Department
2015-08-12
"You gave them WHAT??!!??"
WASHINGTON -- Hillary Rodham Clinton relented Tuesday to months of demands she relinquish the personal email server she used while secretary of state, directing the device be given to the Justice Department.
Hildebeest death stare ?
The decision advances the investigation into the Democratic presidential front-runner's use of a private email account as the nation's top diplomat, and whether classified information was improperly sent via and stored on the home-brew email server she ran from her house in suburban New York City.

Clinton campaign spokesman Nick Merrill said she has "pledged to co-operate with the government's security inquiry, and if there are more questions, we will continue to address them."

It's not clear if the device will yield any information -- Clinton's attorney said in March that no emails from the main personal address she used while secretary of state still "reside on the server or on back-up systems associated with the server."

Clinton had to this point refused demands from Republican critics to turn over the server to a third party, with attorney David Kendall telling the House committee investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that "there is no basis to support the proposed third-party review of the server."

Republicans jumped on Tuesday's decision to change course, as well as the additional disclosure that two emails that traversed Clinton's personal system were subsequently given one of the government's highest classification ratings.

"All this means is that Hillary Clinton, in the face of FBI scrutiny, has decided she has run out of options," Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus in a statement. "She knows she did something wrong and has run out of ways to cover it up."
Could simply be a coincidence, but her actions appear to coincide with the IG's discovery of TS documents in her UNCLAS email. Could be she's simply avoiding a subpoena. The pumps are not keeping up. The ship could be going down.
Posted by:Besoeker

#34  They have security guys at the State Department that tell you that stuff when you show up for work your first day.

That would be me:) In my 18 years, I've found that the overwhelming majority of DOS employees are very good about infosec. They understand the rules and regs and comply. Wildebeest brought the "Rules are for the unwashed" dude with her.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2015-08-12 21:00  

#33  Do you really believe Hillary! has 50,000 emails concerning her yoga routine?

If that were true, she wouldn't need the pantsuit.

/new Downfall video circulating about
Posted by: swksvolFF   2015-08-12 18:56  

#32  I'm betting that the original Hillary Clinton hard drive is in deeper water and will be harder to locate than the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 flight recorder.

These are records of communication over the internet.

Hillary could reliably erase her own archive. But incriminating emails are in the hands of persons and entities she has no control over. At least this must be the reasonable assumption.

Logically any party in possession of such emails would wait for her to assume the presidency before using them to get leverage.

Unless there actually is nothing incriminating in Hillary's email correspondence (fat chance!) Hillary will be a President under Damocles' Sword.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2015-08-12 18:38  

#31  "The hard drive's clean, but the Recycle Bin's got 120GB of material in it"

Snark of the day; repeat winner.
Posted by: Frank G   2015-08-12 16:03  

#30  I'm betting that the original Hillary Clinton hard drive is in deeper water and will be harder to locate than the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 flight recorder.

Nah - they shread hard drives now - in goes the entire hard drive and out comes fine-sawdust sized flecks of drive.

There there's the copious amounts of C4 explosive method.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2015-08-12 15:47  

#29  My bet as well junkiron. Thanks for the technical info/insights.....which we might never see, or be made aware of elsewhere.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 15:46  

#28  According to engineering supervisor Tom Hakim and director of digital forensics Scott Gibbs (at We Recover Data.com) the Clinton server was running Windows Server 2008 and using Microsoft Exchange as its e-mail system. Need I say any more about Security ?
Well maybe...
It should be remembered that any time you send an e-mail on Microsoft Exchange a great amount of information is also being transmitted about the machine you are using. That information includes not only the serial number of of the machine itself but also the serial numbers of the mother board and all drives connected to that machine.
Considering the software in use on the Clinton server It should be a simple matter to determine whether the server and the drives she turns over are in fact the ones that contained the original e-mails in the first place.
I'm betting that the original Hillary Clinton hard drive is in deeper water and will be harder to locate than the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 flight recorder.
Posted by: junkiron   2015-08-12 15:40  

#27   Is it still the same server with the hard drive swapped out? (Answer: No)

The answer to this question may be quite revealing. If she acted independently, my theory of Klingon collusion may be disproven.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 15:01  

#26  The data are Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret independently of what classification's marked on it. Sources and methods or compartments add additional caveats.

Exactly, the document contains an overall classification based on the highest level of data or sources and methods found therein. Individual paragraph classification markings reflect the classification of the data, or sources and methods found within that para.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 14:47  

#25  Didn't she skip the security briefing and there was a minor media blip about it when she started?
Posted by: DarthVader   2015-08-12 14:44  

#24  They have security guys at the State Department that tell you that stuff when you show up for work your first day

Security briefings are for the little people.
Posted by: Pappy   2015-08-12 14:30  

#23  Timing: She's lost too much ground to Sanders, the concern now in her camp is prison with relentless Rep. Trey Gowdy and conservative private groups on her tail. Just in time for the trial, conviction and Presidential pardon after Bill and Barack hold a beer summit one year from December.
Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664   2015-08-12 14:30  

#22  Is it still the same server with the hard drive swapped out? (Answer: No)

Back in the day, we used to classify the paper "Top Secret" before we started typing.

The data are Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret independently of what classification's marked on it. Sources and methods or compartments add additional caveats.

(U) Unclassified stuff is open source. There may be other things that are (U) but I can't think of any.

(FOUO) Anything emanating from the Secretary of State touching on her job would be For Official Use Only.

Open source data that's corroborated by intel takes the classification of the intel in reporting. It's the corroboration that's classified, not necessarily the data itself.

They have security guys at the State Department that tell you that stuff when you show up for work your first day.
Posted by: Fred   2015-08-12 14:00  

#21  I'm with Bobby, the total gap of email corresponding to the arrival of Huma, and lasting somewhere on the order of 45+days, cannot be explained away with "no markings" or "republicans did it too", except that the Nixonian gap in emails as a causation for her political demise would be irony at its finest. Remember her presence (and firing for being a liar) on the Watergate investigation committee!
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2015-08-12 13:16  

#20  Shades of Nixon's 18-minute gap coming up!
Posted by: Bobby   2015-08-12 13:10  

#19  CNN = F6

Heck - at least an F6 human source was recruited. I'm thinking more like call in - unable to assess credibility, placement, or access. May intend to mislead or annoy.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2015-08-12 13:07  

#18  IMINT is inherent classified due to sources and methods. Unless those were from Ball or similar, they were classified at the moment of their creation.
Posted by: OldSpook   2015-08-12 13:06  

#17   In my opinion H. Clinton has fallen in the septic tank and can't get out. Posted by Clomp Omagum5939


Metaphor of the day.

Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 12:56  

#16  Ref: #10, to my knowledge the TK designator has never been lifted. When I left the business I was warned, and had to agree, that I would never divulge it and similar designators -- ever. Had I left with cables or material using that designator in my possession I would likely have been arrested and sentenced. In my opinion H. Clinton has fallen in the septic tank and can't get out.
Posted by: Clomp Omagum5939   2015-08-12 11:49  

#15  She's had plenty of time to scrub the hard drives.
Posted by: Shusons Hitler3356   2015-08-12 11:19  

#14  CNN = F6

Single source information, generally found to be unreliable.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 10:28  

#13  And CNN has this, updated at 10:00 a.m.:

The aide said it's the Clinton campaign's understanding that the Justice Department isn't looking to reconstruct the server's history, but is instead concerned about the security of the emails today, since some are now classified, though they weren't classified or labeled as such at the time.
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-08-12 10:18  

#12  Ref #10:

A State Department spokesman late Tuesday described the top-secret designation as a recommendation

You're either preggies or you are NOT preggies. Classifications are DETERMINED, no recommended. If the data provided was 'Special Intelligence' [which I suspect it was].... then there is no question.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 10:18  

#11  Hmmmm, the FBI obtained the server. The FBI operates under Justice. Someone (ahem, Obama or Valerie J.) throwing Hillary under the bus? Let's see how good the FBI computer forensics people are and how serious they are about recovering information. DOJ may be putting on some Kabuki theater while not really doing much.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-08-12 10:18  

#10  The Washington Post at 8:55 a.m. has this tidbit, courtesy of Drudge Report:

A State Department spokesman late Tuesday described the top-secret designation as a recommendation and said they had not been marked classified at the time, but said staffers “circulated these e-mails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton.”
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-08-12 10:12  

#9  She's wiped it clean. Next up: they have to decide to let it slide, or else go after her for spoliation of evidence, and obstruction of justice, and possibly conspiracy to obstruct if she involved others (RICO for the Clintons?)
Posted by: OldSpook   2015-08-12 10:09  

#8  ..only if the WH kept a lot of material compartmentalized from State. Otherwise, both have goods on each other to play out in this game. We're going to find out what is held in highest grasp of each faction in their fight (Presidency vs Legacy). Lists, they have lists! Welcome to the game of thrones. Unfortunately, for the sheeple, like the real fight between the House of York and Lancaster, a lot of 'innocents' are going to pay the price too. Their 'foot soldiers' I could care less about.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-08-12 10:08  

#7  Yup, her next pantsuit will be orange...
Posted by: Steve White   2015-08-12 09:59  

#6  I seem to recall that early in the proceedings the former Secretary of State claimed the server had been wiped and destroyed...
Posted by: trailing wife   2015-08-12 09:59  

#5  Nope Glenmore. The FBI found TS documents on her drive. If this was the real world, she would be done and do some serious time in a Federal Prison.

However, the information has been turned over to the DOJ and nothing much will happen.
Posted by: DarthVader   2015-08-12 09:52  

#4  I presume her experts have now managed to sanitize the drives of serious problems.
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-08-12 09:35  

#3  Somebody threatened to lower the boom! I suspect a subpoena or suspension of security clearance, or both. She's definitely taking on water.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-08-12 07:44  

#2  sad to see HRC go down so early in the election cycle

she has begged hundreds of millions out of donk suckers over the years and gotten upteem years of unpaid work out of eyed lefties
Posted by: lord garth   2015-08-12 07:40  

#1  How long has it been since you gave to Rantburg?
Posted by: Sherry   2015-08-12 04:48  

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