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Russians say Poland "Partly to Blame" for WW II
2015-09-27
Relations between Poland and Russia have never come easy.
There was the little dust-up that started in 1939, with massacres and purges thereafter, the Solidarity Movement, the Polish Pope the KGB r=tried to wack with a Turkish crackpot. And all that was before most of today's folks were even born.
Poland has repeatedly rejected Moscow's control Moscow's control and embraced the West, joining NATO and the European Union. But tensions have been especially high since Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, a step that Warsaw has strongly condemned.

The Russian ambassador sparked outage on Friday for putting some of the blame for the start of World War II on Poland. The

Russian Ambassador described the Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939 as an act of self-defense, not aggression. "Polish policy led to the disaster in September 1939, because during the 1930s Poland repeatedly blocked the formation of a coalition against Hitler's Germany," Andreev said in an interview with the private TVN station. "Poland was therefore partly responsible for the disaster which then took place."
In the sense that Poland still existed in 1939, I guess that fact made them 'partly responsible'.

For those of you who slept through history class --
World War II began after Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union agreed to a pact in 1939 that included a secret provision to carve up Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe. Germany soon invaded Poland from the West, which was followed by a Soviet invasion from the east more than two weeks later. Millions of Poles were killed in the war.
The Commies waited over two weeks for the Poles to fold. That's another reason they are to blame - they didn't cave in fast enough!
"The narrative presented by the highest official representative of the Russian state in Poland undermines the historical truth and reflects the most hypocritical interpretation of the events known from the Stalinist and communist years," the Poland Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"The role of an ambassador accredited in a country should be to build to build harmony and friendly relations between countries," said Poland's Prime Misiter.
That'a a lovely idea, but only partially true. An ambassador's job is to present his government's position on various matters pertaining to his host country, to provide useful information to his government which will aid in developing those positions, and in his or her spare time, provide some level of aid and assistance to his country's citizens when they are in his host country and provide visas and suchlike paperwork to those who would like to travel to his country. It does help in the first two functions if he is both intelligent and charming enough to create the illusion of friendship in his hosts' minds, but not absolutely necessary.
In other points of contention in recent days, Poland blocked a Crimean official hoping to attend an OSCE conference in Warsaw from entering the country, angering Moscow. Moscow has also protested a Polish town's dismantling of a monument to a Soviet World War II general, threatening Warsaw with "most serious consequences" for that.
Aha! At last - something that makes sense!
Posted by:Bobby

#9  ...Clearly the old guard is gone in Russia, because nobody there seems to remember that of all the nations the Russians have gone to war with, only the Poles invaded them and left victorious.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2015-09-27 20:52  

#8  rj, IIRC, one of the reasons the Germans did not use poison gas in WWII was that much of their freight was moved by horse, rather than by trucks like the Allies did. They knew that if they used gas, the Allies would have responded in kind. Although the Germans could provide protection for the troops, they could not provide gas masks for the horses - thus, the movement of supplies would have been greatly reduced.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2015-09-27 18:48  

#7  "We still might of had another war in Europe but at least it might not of been plauged by the genocides o the Nazis" Horrific as WW2 was it did not have chemical and biological warfare in the European theater because Hitler took a face full in WW1 and wouldn't allow it to be used. So horrible as the guy was the war *might* have been even worse with another German-leader.

I mean worse for the troops and civilians involved in the war. The only way it could have gotten any worse as far as the Jews and Gypsies were concerned would have been if the allies lost and the Germans got to finish their plans.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-09-27 17:37  

#6  So, basically, what Vlad is saying (via his ambassador) "Remember what happened the last time you got us angry?".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-09-27 17:20  

#5  Putin as an abusive spouse:
"I only hit you because I love you. It's your fault that I can't control my greed for power temper"
Posted by: Frank G   2015-09-27 16:08  

#4  "Poland was therefore partly responsible for the disaster which then took place."

"Katyn Forest was partially your fault"?
Posted by: Pappy   2015-09-27 15:36  

#3  If any nation besides Germany in Europe gets blamed for WWII I nominate Phrance. First they wanted to distitute Germany after WWI ( I can understand to a degree) But then they really screwed the pooch by not chasing Rommel and his troops out of the Rhineland in 1936. That probably would of gotten the Austrian Corporal deposed by the German Army. We still might of had another war in Europe but at least it might not of been plauged by the genocides o the Nazis
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2015-09-27 15:24  

#2  Poland's only blame is being badly located geographically. They should just build superhighways from east to west with no offramps in the hopes troops quickly pass through the country without the need to conquer along the way.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2015-09-27 15:10  

#1  These were the good guys? Our allies?

Nazis were bad, but by any measure the Soviets were just as bad - and quite possibly worse.
Posted by: Iblis   2015-09-27 14:49  

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