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Home Front: Politix
So What About 'Trump University'
2016-03-06
The Internet has greatly narrowed the field of the seminar folks, simply because it's made information so much more-available at far lower cost. I'm not even slightly surprised that these seminars are gone, having disappeared following the '08 crash, both due to the changes in the real estate market and the proliferation of information via online means.

As for the BBB angle, it's worthless in either direction. As a former CEO my view on the BBB is 180 degrees out-of-phase with that of most consumers. BBB "accreditation" requires membership for a fee. Unfortunately the fact that the BBB is decentralized (the various regional units are more-or-less independent), "pay to play" organization and businesses are the ones paying, while the consumer is the one allegedly protected, along with the fact that their measurement means you can't expect consistency, especially across organizations that are and are not "members" or are and are not "accredited." In other words whether the organization was listed as "A+", "D" or not at all gives you nothing actionable.

In short I don't think there's anything wrong with Trump's organization having a piece of itself that ran seminars that charged an amount of money that was roughly what I'd expect to see charged for this sort of thing. That they ran afoul of a state law on their name doesn't exercise me much either. And finally, given the apparent number of people who took these seminars and that nearly all of them appear to have been happy with what they received I'm trying to figure out exactly what the argument here is. If it's that he made money at it, well, isn't that what capitalists are supposed to be doing?

The bottom line is this: Have you ever seen a business operate with thousands of customers with a 100% satisfaction rate?

Neither have I.
Posted by:Blossom Unains5562

#16  Oh apparently an exorcism there at #14.5

Just a thought, or observation, whatever. Bennie won Kansas, and I hate Fraggles.

Isn't forgiven student debt for people who went to university and could not find a well paying job afterwards in essence a refund on a poor education?

As a business owner, the nice thing about credit cards is that I get paid no matter what the finances of the customer is or becomes.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-03-06 19:10  

#15  It is funny to read that as a subtitle to that South Africa sign language guy.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-03-06 18:40  

#14  @#13: It's all good!
Posted by: Blossom Unains5562   2016-03-06 16:30  

#13  Wasn't getting on ya BU5562 or anyone else, my point was that to not post differing opinions is a credibility issue, and also robs us of a chance for discussion.

In a way, I expect cheerleading from people who are knowledgeable and passionate about a subject.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-03-06 16:28  

#12  Anyone but Hillary.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2016-03-06 16:15  

#11  Dear valued friend, I know this may come as huuuge surprise to you, but I trust you to join in a venture with me. It will be wonderful. My name is Prince Donald, from the land of Winners, I desire to move 20 M US votes and deposit them at the Republican convention. I hire only the best people for this endeavor, believe me. That is why you were recommended to me to help...
Boner fooled me once with the same scam, Prince Donald ain't gonna get me on the rebound.
Posted by: Tennessee   2016-03-06 14:24  

#10  @#2: Not a cheerleader, but I understand how these "seminars" work.

Like all self-improvement or career advancement "Ra-Ra's," there will be some who find the subject matter and presentation useful and others who do not. A lot depends upon the anticipated NPV of the seminar which may or may not incorporate the necessary behavior modifications facilitating the successful outcome for the kool-aid drinker sub-set.

There are basic skills that are required for Real Estate investing (not the least of which would be being able to sell your Mother's teeth.), and these things cannot always be taught.

I used to lead training seminars, and was astounded to have a woman attend (2) of the same module yet complained about her first attendance that I was going to fast and the next too slow. My pace did not change...
Posted by: Blossom Unains5562   2016-03-06 14:19  

#9  a fool and his money are soon parted
Posted by: 746   2016-03-06 14:02  

#8  these type of seminars still go on, although less than a decade ago and with new players

the trick to getting a good evaluation from the student is to give him the evaluation form after a particularly up session

if they gave evaluations a year after the seminar, it would be a different story
Posted by: lord garth   2016-03-06 12:33  

#7  The author makes a good point. Without questiion, the graduates of TRChump U got scammed. They just need to harness that valuable hands on experience to cultivate their own rackets. And you have to admit the whole Bait and Switch thing has been veddy veddy good for The Donald.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2016-03-06 12:27  

#6  "100% satisfaction rate?"
Most bars I know.
Posted by: Skidmark   2016-03-06 11:02  

#5  Ditto swksvolFF.

One of the reasons I peruse the 'burg is that knowledgeable commenters are around to apply the appropriate level of skepticism without an immediate recourse to name calling.

It's good to see both sides and think for oneself.
Posted by: AlanC   2016-03-06 09:13  

#4  More new and interesting names posting too.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2016-03-06 08:00  

#3  This appears to be the author of this editorial.
Posted by: trailing wife   2016-03-06 06:02  

#2  I don't mind reading what whatever cheerleaders are posting, and it does give the opportunity for the Rantburg community to argue a point, which you did, thank you.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-03-06 01:15  

#1  The writer doesn't mention how the affordable seminar pushed attendees to use credit cards to pay an extra $5 to $20 grand for more instruction. Little Hands is a phony crook. Rantburg posting this crap makes me start wondering about its credibility.
Posted by: Don Vito Whuth8374   2016-03-06 00:27  

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