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‘Strange and withdrawn': What drove 'Ali Sonboly' to launch Munich massacre?
2016-07-24
[Guardian] Ali David Sonboly finished his paper round on Friday evening, used a young woman's hacked Facebook account to issue a clumsy invitation to a local McDonald’s, then set off to kill anyone unlucky enough to take it up.

The 18-year-old was known to neighbours and schoolmates as a chubby loner who was shunned by classmates and shunned his local community in turn, rarely seen unless he was out on a paper round delivering a local free-sheet.

He had sought treatment for depression and psychiatric problems, police revealed after he shot nine people in cold blood, then killed himself. But his transformation into a violent killer still stunned those who had watched the uneasy teenager grow up.

Classmates, family friends and neighbours said the tall, withdrawn young man had always seemed more shy than violent. Police confirmed that he had no criminal record and had never crossed the radar of German intelligence services. "He wasn’t intimidating-looking, but a little strange in character," said Stephan Baumanns, the 47-year-old owner of the Treemans bakery and coffee shop, which sits near the entrance to the Sonboly family apartment. "He always seemed a bit nervous."
Posted by:Besoeker

#21  27yo Syrian living in a government-paid flat, attempted 2 suicides before (without bomb).

Walked with a backback of explosives, was refused entry to the festival because he had no ticket, then went kaboom in front of the entrance.

He could have killed dozens.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 22:26  

#20  Perpetrator is a 20yo Syrian national who was denied asylum but allowed to stay temporarily because of the war in Syria.

He wanted to enter the festival (2500 people) but was refused entry.

He carried an explosive which killed him and injured 10 people.

That could have been a major terror attack.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 22:06  

#19  It looks like a major attack was avoided. Maybe the explosive did go off too early? I'm sure he was waiting for the nearby festival to finish and target exiting people. In that case he could have killed dozens.

Note there is also a US base in Ansbach.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 20:30  

#18  Frank, European Conservative -- thank you for being on top of these stories for us.
Posted by: trailing wife   2016-07-24 20:25  

#17  Police say this is not an accident. The person killed looks like to have been the culturally enriching one.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 20:13  

#16  yeah - I posted for tomorrow's links
Posted by: Frank G   2016-07-24 20:11  

#15  Looks like there was a terror attack in Ansbach (Bavaria)

Ansbach, Germany, rocked by explosion

Updated 2338 GMT (0738 HKT) July 24, 2016

From CNN

An explosion occurred in Ansbach, Germany, Sunday evening, according to German media. At least one person is dead and as many as 10 others are wounded, German media is reporting.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 20:09  

#14  That was NOT a misunderstanding
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 15:22  

#13  I read that a guy in a Beemer ran him over
Posted by: Frank G   2016-07-24 15:15  

#12  just a cultural misunderstanding
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 14:52  

#11  yep
Posted by: Frank G   2016-07-24 14:44  

#10  2 killed you mean Frank G. Woman who was hacked to death was pregnant.
Posted by: Charles   2016-07-24 14:42  

#9  **breaking**
Another "Not a terror attack" by a Syrian refugee in Reutlingen, southern Germany, with a machete.

On Foxnews - 1 killed 2 hurt
Posted by: Frank G   2016-07-24 13:19  

#8  This is typical of lefty thinking. People are basically good, so if they do something bad then someone or something must have driven them to it. Poverty, society, bullying - something. It takes a more level head to accept that people are ***not*** basically good.
Posted by: Iblis   2016-07-24 12:58  

#7  No Bavarian would waste a full beer bottle.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 12:06  

#6  Bavarian tried to take him out by throwing a beer bottle at him

Impact Eisernes Kreuz bitte! Such bravery.
Posted by: Besoeker   2016-07-24 12:01  

#5  From The Daily Mail:

An anonymous person posted on a website - thought to be a chat room - that they went to the same school as Ali Sonboly

They wrote on a website, thought to be a chat room, that pupils 'always mobbed' Sonboly - which in German means 'bullied' - while he was at school.

The post read: 'I know this f****** guy, his name is ali sonboly. he was in my class back than (sic). we always mobbed him in school. and he always told us that he would kill us.'

He was put through a trade school in his early teenage years when it became apparent he was unlikely to complete the standard German Abitur exams.

But he ended up failing at his school too, blaming bullying by 'Turkish and Arabic' schoolmates as being the reason for his poor educational performance.

Yesterday it was suggested that this might have been a Sunni-Shia thing. But the Guardian article made it clear the outgoing younger brother had no problems in the same community, so perhaps it was that any excuse will do for those inclined toward "mobbing".
Posted by: trailing wife   2016-07-24 11:59  

#4  Bavarian tried to take him out by throwing a beer bottle at him

An empty bottle, one trusts?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2016-07-24 11:57  

#3  Society drove this poor kid. Society. Always.
German press has already criticized the Bavarian who insulted the killer. So insensitive.

Btw this Bavarian tried to take him out by throwing a beer bottle at him and was shot at.
Posted by: European Conservative   2016-07-24 11:56  

#2  What drives an adherent of Religion of Peace to commit an act of terror? Can science answer this question?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2016-07-24 11:39  

#1  Perhaps the author can write me a write-up of what the, what nine?, people who are dead will be like in 10 years.

bullshit. such bullshit.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2016-07-24 10:20  

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