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| 2016-07-26 |
| The way I see it: This article suggests WW III has already begun. Donald Trump's latest proposal to stop immigration "from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism" is an "expansion" of his blanket ban on Muslims, he said in an interview that aired Sunday. Trump has not defined which countries would be included in that list of territories, but on "Meet the Press" Sunday, he refused to rule out banning individuals from top US allies like France and Germany, saying that "they have totally been" compromised by terrorism. Trump had previously said that if elected he would "suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats." What would that version -- there have been several -- of the GOP nominee's proposed ban look like? And how many people would it affect? The short answer is millions. Here's the math, including based on tallying nonimmigrant and immigrant visas from countries that have any sort of terrorist activity: Start with 'terrorist safe havens': 12 countries; 496,436 nonimmigrant and 74,283 immigrant visas in 2015 The State Department's annual report on global terrorist activity lists 12 "terrorist safe havens" around the world where "terrorists are able to organize, plan, raise funds, communicate, recruit, train, transit and operate." These safe havens include Somalia, Mali, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. Total countries so far: 12 Add 'state sponsors of terror': 3 countries; 45,935 nonimmigrant and 10,722 immigrant visas in 2015 An additional three countries -- Iran, Sudan and Syria -- are designated as state sponsors of terrorism. Total countries so far: 15 Nations where terror networks are based and operate: 14 countries; 1,741,169 nonimmigrant and 63,106 immigrant visas in 2015 The report lists a further 14 countries where terrorists operate or are based, though are not considered "safe havens." This list becomes broader since terror groups ranging from ISIS to al Qaeda and its affiliates have successfully recruited and infiltrated numerous operatives and cells into countries ranging from Turkey and Russia to Nigeria and India. Total countries so far: 29 Other countries with active terror cells: 11 countries; 295,695 nonimmigrant and 16,883 immigrant visas in 2015 The State Department's list does not include countries that have smaller though substantial presence of jihadis or suspected jihadis, such as France, Belgium or the U.K., each of which has dozens of known terror cells and hundreds of known and suspected terror suspects. A total of 11 countries fall into this category. Final tally: 40 countries The State Department granted 2,571,762 nonimmigrant visas to residents of those 40 countries in fiscal year 2015. State also granted 158,877 immigrant visas to individuals from those countries in that same period. 2,738,528 visas in 2015 Citizens from some of these countries, such as France, Belgium and the U.K., do not require visas for tourist travel to the U.S. More than 7.5 million tourists from these countries traveled to the U.S. in 2014, according to data provided by the Department of Commerce. All told, as many as 10.2 million people could be barred from the U.S. If they can't prove that they're on the right team, that's fine with me. |
| Posted by:gorb |
| #11 tw, thanks but I just don't get what Trump means by "suspend immigration". He really isn't the guy to clarify what he says. Btw the Germans who move to the U.S. are usually not Muslims, and usually not the dumbest. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2016-07-26 23:08 |
| #10 This is what the government has to say on the subject, European Conservative: link. Bottom line, permanent stay visas are for family members of citizens and permanent residents, special classes of high-value workers, refugees, and winners of the "diversity" immigration lottery. Temporary visas are for business, tourism, and visiting trips, fixed term work, and study. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2016-07-26 22:05 |
| #9 Can we add Chicago to this list? |
| Posted by: Percy McCoy7690 2016-07-26 21:20 |
| #8 Can someone educate me what "immigration" means in that context? a) temporary visits (for tourism, business etc.) b) permanent stay (working visa etc.) |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2016-07-26 20:30 |
| #7 Include those with TB on the list. |
| Posted by: jvalentour 2016-07-26 18:56 |
| #6 CNN opinionated reporting. The numbers in the report from State are approximate at best. Use them as a baseline. Blending 'source of' with 'operations in' introduces error conditions. The third map is telling with moderate/victim states north of the Med and source states below. Australia details are sadly lacking. CNN projects 10 million from the visa count. 7 million 'no visa required' from the north countries, 3 million from the south. TSA 'screened' 700 MILLION passengers in 2015. Many would have been round trip repeats, but the control system and traveling public accommodated the brief inspection. A scrub on 10 million is a good start. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2016-07-26 18:47 |
| #5 Sponsor/Insurer, it's all similar. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2016-07-26 17:59 |
| #4 Return to the policy that each immigrant must have a sponsor responsible for them. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2016-07-26 17:39 |
| #3 Sounds like a good start |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2016-07-26 17:08 |
| #2 Does Mutual of Gaza count, BP? |
| Posted by: Bobby 2016-07-26 16:53 |
| #1 Trump should merely ensure all visitors are insured. Win for America Win For insurers Win for legitimate Travellers. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2016-07-26 15:03 |