Please attach this handy map to your spot on assessment. Add to that the fact that former Soviet states appear to have received the 'don't take any immigrants' warning memo.
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| The Grand Turk | |
| WikiLeaks reveals 57,000 emails from the son-in-law of President Erdogan, 'proving his connection to ISIS operation smuggling oil into Turkey' | |
| 2016-12-08 | |
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| Posted by:Bright Pebbles |
| #7 JVA: What you've written makes sense. I have objected to Turkey involvement in NATO for more that a decade. Erdogan's Muslim Brotherhood credentials cannot be denied, and while he opposes Assad his ideal would be the imposition of a Muslim Brotherhood government in Syria (which would just be another no-win for the West). Finally, I was really pissed when the Pentagon went on hands and knees to re-open the US (overt) presence at Incirlik air base. |
| Posted by: Heriberto Greper9897 2016-12-08 12:31 |
| #6 jv, from all I've read that would be HAD significant investments. IMHO NATO has fewer than 5 years left. Between the EU breaking up and Turkey there's little left of the America In, Soviets out and Germany down motivation left. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2016-12-08 12:12 |
| #5 HG, I appreciate you observations. I am still under the school of thought that ISIS fighting the Iranians and Syrians is a good thing. I see no reason to protect them or their Iraqi stooges. Add to that Sunni oil states are throwing money into the mess is icing on the cake. I don't mind Russia and Turkey fighting, or Turkey and ISIS fighting. IMO Turkey doesn't belong in the EU or NATO, it is now or soon will be a dictatorship. Turkey is no more an ally than the KSA. I do have concerns that PE Trump has significant investments in Turkey. |
| Posted by: jvalentour 2016-12-08 09:37 |
| #4 To review: Two years ago there were reports that ISIS received $3 million a day in sale of oil. That seemed impossible given the logistics involved, and the fact that the Govt of Turkey would have had to be complicit. Then we found out through Wikileaks that the Govt of Turkey was complicit. Equally complicit in the scheme was Obama who wouldn't bombed the oil convoys because he was afraid the drivers might be injured. When we finally began to bomb the vehicles in truck parks the ISIS cash cow was slaughtered. Unfortunately, Turkey has not been condemned by Washington or NATO for its role in supporting ISIS, and the US media has never bothered to evaluate Obama's foreign expertise vis-Ã -vis ISIS or the Erdogan octopus. |
| Posted by: Heriberto Greper9897 2016-12-08 07:58 |
| #3 Please attach this handy map to your spot on assessment. Add to that the fact that former Soviet states appear to have received the 'don't take any immigrants' warning memo. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-12-08 07:41 |
| #2 Remember folks, WikiLeaks is a Russian propaganda operation. Hillary said so. That means what exactly? I wouldn't put it past the Russians to try and use ISIS and Turkey as some kind of wedge issue against the West. At this point I don't know what to think other than I hope that DJT mostly just sits back and watches where this goes. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2016-12-08 07:36 |
| #1 What would be fun or course is finding his Clinton Foundation donation notes. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2016-12-08 02:02 |