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| Roger L. Simon: The Democrats' Nauseating Putin Hypocrisy |
| 2016-12-13 |
| [PJ] The degree to which the Democrats have changed their tune on Vladimir Putin almost on a proverbial dime is either black comic or nauseating or both, depending on how you want to look at it. Whatever it is, it is a extremely obvious example of how party politics is conducted in our era (possibly always). If your side does it, it's diplomatic genius bound to yield peace in our time. If the other side does the exact same thing, it's a horrendous mistake bordering on treason likely to cause a national calamity, if not global Armageddon. If there were any decent, even semi-even-handed political science departments left in our country (okay, maybe there are one or two), what we might call the Democrats' "Great Putin Flip Flop" would be a textbook case for classroom discussion. Let's start at the beginning, March 2009, but a few weeks after the first inauguration of Barack Obama, when a smiling Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov the red "reset" button, signaling the arrival of a supposed era of peace between the two countries. The new administration was greeted with hosannas for their great symbolism from their loyal claque at the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, et al., who were oblivious, needless to say, that the word "peregruzka" printed in Cyrillic on the button, thought to mean "reset" in Russian by the linguistic geniuses in our State Department, was actually the word for "overload." No wonder Lavrov has such a quizzical look on his face in the all the photos. (Imagine what the reaction of the press would have been had Trump's putative secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, done something similar. Media lynch mob?) Much more important, however, was the extreme ignorance of the Russian character, from the Czars through Lenin and Stalin and on into the present, evinced by such a naive, almost childish, "reset." Throughout the East, of which Russia has always been a signal part despite intermittent yearnings for the West, a powerful leader has always been the center of national and tribal life. Silly, symbolic gestures like "reset" buttons are seen as weakness, not compromises or attempts at global comity. They are something to exploit. |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #10 When does hillary go to prison anyways? That investigation is not over, and since she wants to stir up sh!t, it's a great time to make sure her slimy lizard alien body does not slip through all the hooplah. It needs to be investigated. |
| Posted by: newc 2016-12-13 22:30 |
| #9 *That being said, I am still in the camp that the initial releases was likely by a Sanders supporter familiar with the IT systems, on account of the timing - the DNC was in session and there was still not an official democrat delegate and it was obvious that the fix was in from the beginning. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2016-12-13 13:49 |
| #8 A US policy determined by the highest bidder, sounds great. Hillary would be a figurehead on a worm-eaten man-o-war. I think everyone and their Ghana hacked that server, or at least paid for a peep show. Gonna put on my tin-foil ushanka and put this out: Clintons to sell uranium to Iran, use Russia to launder the transaction. Russians wanting best price peek at the cards by hacking, monitoring SoS communications. Sometime after transaction is finalized, the hacks are discovered. Hillary gets pissed, vows revenge for shorting her. Russians get wind of this, begin preparation for war as election closes and Hillary is expected winner. Just remembering the conversation between the US ambassador to Ukraine concerning the sluggish EU. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2016-12-13 13:19 |
| #7 When I learned about how she sent classified mails using her own private account, ie on the clear and with her emails resting at hers and destinatary's ISP I was simply aghast: how could anyone just think in providing the nuclear codes to such frivolous, irresponsible woman? In three months they would have been in ISIS or AL Quaida's hands. |
| Posted by: JFM 2016-12-13 11:44 |
| #6 IT barons Schnork! The gurgle bunch? Suckerpurge? They are ad sellers. Not IT specialists. The IT specialists they employ are tasked to make everything easy to get at for ad selling purposes. I bet none of them personally do anything important to themselves online. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2016-12-13 11:35 |
| #5 For the DNC not to take such measure is an indication of gross negligence and incompetence. Especially given the excellent relations they've with IT barons. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-12-13 11:28 |
| #4 If the Democrats were too stupid to secure their email server they have no business anywhere near the reins of power in this country. Of course the Russians hacked that server. Anybody who has done the least bit of work having to do with cyber security knows the Russians are extremely active hackers. They always have been. But there are measures that can be taken to make a server secure from such attacks. For the DNC not to take such measure is an indication of gross negligence and incompetence. They are not the kind of people you want running the country. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2016-12-13 11:13 |
| #3 Do I believe Trump actually was the Russians' preference? I do. Only idiots want a psychotic old lady in control of the worlds greatest nuclear arsenal. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2016-12-13 09:19 |
| #2 Ref #1. I will also go with 'confusion and finger pointing.' |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2016-12-13 09:11 |
| #1 The money quote: Do I believe Trump actually was the Russians' preference? That would be mighty optimistic on their part. How could they do better than Obama, considering the last eight years? And why not just as well elect a weakened Hillary? My guess is, if (big if) they were the instigators of the hacking of the embarrassingly cyber-incompetent DNC, they were equal-opportunity hackers, anxious to create confusion and finger-pointing, rather than specific results that would be hard to control. This would be consistent with Russian/Soviet behavior over generations. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2016-12-13 09:07 |