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-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, July 15th, 2017
2017-07-15


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

First is a list of five errors concealed weapon carriers make.

The second link is error six. On the upside, the Dear Departed did place second in the South OKC Quick Draw Competition. But seven others were better.

You can always steal thousands of dollars of guns and ammo, and you with your homies let the FBI know about it. Why the FBI for a gun shop invasion? The rapper claimed to be in touch with ISIS. I guess one of the warnings ISIS doesn't give to its prospective shooters is to shut up.

Lastly a retired American special operations guy-turned-politician violates his oath and helps passage of a bill that allows ex parte court hearings as a prelude to taking an individual's guns. I don't know how many times we have seen this. Retired kops and military deciding that their oaths are just words as they join our own homegrown fascists in destroying civil liberties.

Loads


Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mixed. Rifle ammunition prices were mixed.

Prices for used pistols were mixed. Prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: +.03 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own Brand, RNFP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .18 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .18 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads .15 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Fedarm, Own brand, TMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each)

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Highland Lakes Ammo, Own Brand, FP, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Western Arms & Ammo, Own Brand, TMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammomen, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (1Q, 2017))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Selway Armory, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .82 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Winchester, Brass Casing, SP, .87 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: +.13 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Federal Eagle, Brass Casing, JSP, 2.30 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Wholesale Hunter, Federal American Eagle, Brass Casing, HP, 2.36 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $438 Last Week Avg: $454(-) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $435 (5 Weeks))
Arizona (191, 3Q, 2017)(179, 179): Ruger: $540 ($600 (25 Weeks), $450 (19 Weeks))
Texas (469, 3Q, 2017)(436, 420): Bushmaster: $350 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (234, 3Q, 2017)(215, 217): Mixed Build: $450 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(253, 245): Smith & Wesson: $450 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $400 (5 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(593, 603): Smith and Wesson Sport II M&P15: $400 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $800 Last Week Avg: $790(+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (7 Weeks))
Arizona (32, 3Q, 2017)(32, 30): DPMS: $900 ($2,300 (5 Weeks)), $650 (28 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(166, 156): Mixed Build: $900 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $700 (49 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(49, 46): DPMS: $775 ($1,600 (36 Weeks), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (85, 3Q, 2017)(83, 81): Mixed Build: $775 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $750 (21 Weeks))
Florida (124, 3Q, 2017)(117, 116): Mixed Build: $650 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $535 Last Week Avg: $564(-) ($668 (44 Weeks), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (28, 3Q, 2017)(25, 23): Unknown Make: $650 ($900 (6 Weeks), $400 (11 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(137, 127): RAS-47: $575 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(61, 68): RAS-47: $550 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(57, 62): IO: $450 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(126, 146): IO: $450 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $365 Last Week Avg: $355(+) ($495 (40 Weeks), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(12, 10): Mossberg 464: $400 ($500 (25 Weeks), $200 (10 Weeks))
Texas (32, 3Q, 2017)(26, 25): Winchester Model 94: $325 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (10 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(19, 21): Marlin: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (17, 3Q, 2017)(12, 13): Winchester Model 94: $450 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(27, 23): Marlin: $300 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $388 Last Week Avg: $407(-) ($525 (46 Weeks), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (124, 3Q, 2017)(114, 111): Viking Tactical: $450 ($700 (11 Weeks), $380 (4 Weeks))
Texas (358, 3Q, 2017)(336, 335): Girsan: $405 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (32 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(157, 159): Llama: $300 ($585 (10 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (197, 3Q, 2017)(197, 191): Rock Island Armory: $385 ($600 (24 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(396, 401): Rock Island Armory:: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $220 Last Week Avg: $220(=) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (10 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(227, 227): EAA SARB6P: $300 ($400 (16 Weeks), $240 (12 Weeks))
Texas (565, 3Q, 2017)(532, 526): Taurus 709: $200 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $199 (12 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(351, 343): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $200 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (21 Weeks))
Virginia (334, 3Q, 2017)(318, 326): Beretta 92S: $200 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(750, 839): Ruger P89: $200 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (10 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $290 Last Week Avg: $282(+) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (75, 3Q, 2017)(60, 59): Walther PPS: $350 ($500 (26 Weeks), $195 (3 Weeks))
Texas (150, 3Q, 2017)(126, 132): Smith & Wesson M&P 40C: $200 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $200 (30 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (108, 3Q, 2017)(102, 95): Kahr CM40: $275 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (46 Weeks))
Virginia (89, 3Q, 2017)(80, 84): Walther PPQ: $350 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (173, 3Q, 2017)(169, 171): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $275 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Wisconsin)
Ruger SP101 chambered in .357 Magnum
Posted by:badanov

#4  Helicopter theory... the more moving parts, the more that can go wrong.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-07-15 11:02  

#3  Always preferred wheel guns myself.
Posted by: Pappy   2017-07-15 10:55  

#2  Anything with the name Colt, named after a snake.... money in the bank.

Interesting, the return of 'wheel guns.'
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-07-15 10:31  

#1  Ruger SP101 chambered in .357 Magnum
Some say too heavy for pocket carry.
Others, the magnum round range is wasted in a 3" barrel.
Or there are no sights and the fireball shows an incomplete powder burn.

Mine is DA only, a natural pointer with no hammer spur and Wolff springs.
Went with smaller Pachmayr grips. The OEM grip screw and hard plastic filler were brutal.

On occasion I use a custom pocket holster with belt clip to carry 5-158 gr SWC rounds.
Under 5 ft the fireball and shockwave is a CQC alternative to punching drain holes.

When walking the wilds, I sometimes carry a sequenced mix of ammo:
(1-2) shot rounds (3-4) 125 gr HP (5) 158 gr SWC for snake, coyote, hog and varmit.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-07-15 10:27  

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