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Terror Attack in Las Vegas - Mass Shooting - Updated 50+ dead, 400+ wounded
2017-10-02

[FoxNews] From shooter on 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay into a concert.
Reports now indicate as many as 20 50 dead.
Update at 10:30 a.m. ET from this article, the others linked in the comment thread, and the NPR report I'm listening to as I type. Note: President Trump is about to speak publically on the subject.
o 50+ dead, not known how many from gunshots vs. trampling as crowd fled

o At least 436 wounded

o More than 10 rifles were found in the room

o Shooter Stephen Paddock, 64, resident of Mesquite, Nevada, was found dead of a self-inflicted wound in a room of the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino

o Paddock's roommate, Marilou Danley, has been found and spoke with police, who do not believe she is involved, as she is out of the country

o Paddock's brother said he has no history of mental illness

o The retirement community house Paddock shared with Danley is currently being raided

o Paddock is in the middle of divorce proceedings

o It is 1,700ft. from the shooter's window to the concert grounds
Posted by:3dc

#74  The range here was over 400 meters. With nearly automatic fire, the 5.56 rounds would be just random, and 7.62 would be only accurate on the first shot of a burst. To injure 600 people would require at least 3000 rounds. Probably twice that much.

I dont't know about you, but I have not fired more than a couple hundred rounds at the range per trip to the range, which took about an hour.

He was not shooting anything that could be legal in any jurisdiction.

It is a damn shame that crazy people violate our gun laws and shoot people.

Posted by: rammer   2017-10-02 23:48  

#73  #48 Trailingwife, I assume this is a typo "rightwing NPR type".

Quite right -- thank you for catching that, rjschwarz. It was meant to be NRA.
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-02 23:48  

#72  10 rounds per second. To me, a SAW belt fed with tripods. Podcast from AllMarineRadio
Posted by: newc   2017-10-02 23:39  

#71  Based on the number of rounds per burst he was emptying 30 round clips at each burst. 600 casualties indicated he fired off probably at least a dozen clips, probably more.

But in his mind he was the victim. And blamed the world. Yes, that would be a Democrat.

Posted by: Hupeting Sforza8196   2017-10-02 23:02  

#70  The Media haven't mentioned if the kiler was a Democrat and hated Trump supporters and one would assume that he thought that people who attended the Country Music concert which was his target would also ne likely Trump Supporters.

And an analysis of other wacko mass muderers have tended to be Democrats. The last one who shot up the Congressman at a baseball game was a Bernie supporter. Remember? There have been numerous others...Democrats with guns.

But the Media doesn't even ask those questions. The Media is incompetent AND stupid.
Posted by: Glalet Scourge of the Boskonians5304   2017-10-02 22:46  

#69  do not ask how. there are a millions of how's. Do not ask why. There is no why. Evil is just that.
Posted by: newc   2017-10-02 19:35  

#68  I'm trying to picture how he got such an arsenal up to his room without security noticing. You haven't seen many hotel lobbies, then, with luggage carts packed to overflowing with stuff the customers bring with them.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-10-02 19:03  

#67  I'm more interested in how he got the arms. How many full automatics did he have?
Posted by: Glager Grolet7852   2017-10-02 19:01  

#66  Take it apart and put it in luggage. Lots of people carrying luggage around a hotel that big.
Posted by: Glager Grolet7852   2017-10-02 19:00  

#65  I'm trying to picture how he got such an arsenal up to his room without security noticing. I guess you don't pay attention to that kind of stuff until something bad happens.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-10-02 18:44  

#64  Danley apparently in the Philippines where she was originally from. Not Indonesia as reported earlier.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-10-02 18:44  

#63  I was wondering just how many more "Gun Free Zone" decals security would have to put up in order for the shooter to throw up his arms and say "This just ain't worth it"?
Posted by: Capsu78   2017-10-02 17:39  

#62  Also, I heard the shots fired on the video. Full auto machine gun. 99.9% chance that guy did not possess that legally.
Posted by: Ebbomonter Spineth1474   2017-10-02 17:36  

#61  Norway has strict gun laws too. They had a mass shooting in 2011 claiming 77 lives.
Posted by: Ebbomonter Spineth1474   2017-10-02 17:23  

#60  Mandalay hotel starting 2012 required all hotel security be unarmed.

Charles,
Any link to Venezuela or Cuba today, any link to pre WWII Nazi Germany under Hitler, or to orders from King George of England during the American Revolution demanding un armed citizens in the colonies will show you what happens to entire populations that are unarmed.

The Vegas massacre was a gun free zone. Even hotel security was to have no weapons. The crazies do thier homework.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135   2017-10-02 17:18  

#59  "REALLY hate to ask, but anybody have links to some primers explaining, in detail, why those people are stupid?"

Here you go.
Posted by: Iblis   2017-10-02 17:17  

#58  Danley looks ethnic Chinese, so I wouldn't assume she is a Muslim. Might be a convert though.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-10-02 16:55  

#57  And Anti-gun nuts on twitter starting the "But England/Australia/Europe doesn't have mass death events after they banned guns" meme.

REALLY hate to ask, but anybody have links to some primers explaining, in detail, why those people are stupid? I mean common sense says they are(Much of the death is [imo] sub-culture), but I'd like some links if any of you have some.
Posted by: Charles   2017-10-02 16:38  

#56  Some fringe links and rumourmills going around that Antifa AND isis stuff found...

24 hours in salt room applies.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2017-10-02 16:20  

#55  Performer Jake Owen says shooting lasted 10 minutes.
Posted by: si vis pacem, para bellum   2017-10-02 16:08  

#54  It took an hour and 12 minutes from the first 911 call to the moment police burst into Paddock's room. Why so long?

He was already dead by that time. When did the shooting stop?
Posted by: si vis pacem, para bellum   2017-10-02 15:49  

#53  CBS Exec Fired for ‘Deeply Unacceptable’ Post About ‘Republican Gun Toters’

Yeah. They have standards. She violated the one about being too obvious.
Posted by: gorb   2017-10-02 15:49  

#52  Rosenberg covering among other things : "Warning 45 minutes before the attack: “You’re all going to die.”"
Posted by: newc   2017-10-02 15:18  

#51  As TW said: "Maybe they read a book."
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-10-02 15:17  

#50  On a positive note:

CBS Exec Fired for ‘Deeply Unacceptable’ Post About ‘Republican Gun Toters’
Posted by: DarthVader   2017-10-02 15:16  

#49  UK Army confirm soldiers from @TheWelshCavalry responded after "heinous" #LasVegasShooting to save wounded

'Pro rege et patria' (For Queen and Country).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2017-10-02 15:01  

#48  Trailingwife, I assume this is a typo "rightwing NPR type". Funny imagining though.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-10-02 14:51  

#47  This statement from Daesh is being reported thru SITE Intel. https://twitter.com/Rita_Katz/status/914914301336522752
Posted by: newc   2017-10-02 14:49  

#46  Police got to room so quickly because its smoke detector was tripped by the amount of smoke from his firing. Latest count 58 dead, 515 wounded.
Posted by: Thomons Dribble9572   2017-10-02 14:45  

#45  ISIS repeatedly and more specifically claims the attack ("Abu Abd Abdulbar al-Ameriki"), but the FBI already told us "absolutely not".

If ISIS claim is correct, why did the FBI rush with denial? isn't it easier to say "no comment"?
Posted by: si vis pacem, para bellum   2017-10-02 14:38  

#44  A primer on how suppressors wouldn't have helped this shooter.
Posted by: gorb   2017-10-02 14:29  

#43  Apparently his dad was a psychopath.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/vegas-gunmans-psychopath-dad-landed-on-fbis-most-wanted-list/
Posted by: gorb   2017-10-02 14:17  

#42  People Are Celebrating Death Of “Trump Supporters” At Las Vegas Shooting

I would prefer a different word than "people" in the headline, but, there it is.
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy   2017-10-02 13:48  

#41  h/t Instapundit

CBS Legal Exec: No Sympathy For Vegas ‘Because Country Music Fans Often Are Republican’

Dem rep says he won't participate in moment of silence for Las Vegas victims
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2017-10-02 13:26  

#40  Vegas: RUMINT
https://vladtepesblog.com/2017/10/02/dear-readers-please-check-the-comments-under-the-readers-links-post/
Posted by: newc   2017-10-02 13:12  

#39  “No, they don’t claim everything. With few exceptions, IS has shown itself to be accurate in claiming only attacks they directed/inspired”
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2017-10-02 13:04  

#38  “The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago,” Amaq added


Girlfriend Danley was apparently out of country, making several trips lately, but was reportedly Indonesian

She is also reported in 2016 spending time in Dubai.

Posted by: Victor Emmanuel Ebbaise1246   2017-10-02 12:53  

#37  From the video recordings I've heard on TV it sound like full-auto firing. Probably just emptying one mag after another into the crowd mass. It will be interesting to learn how many shell casings are found in that hotel room.

One sick, evil bastid. Unarmed, defenseless young people. Totally evil.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-10-02 12:48  

#36  I blame Democrats for being vile subhuman evil vermin. They are the root of the world's evil. Scratch Satan, find a democrat.

Do I really need a /sarc on this given that it's essentially true?
Posted by: Silentbrick   2017-10-02 12:31  

#35  Marilou Danley Facebook page before it was deleted. Marilou Danley being sought for questioning for the investigation into the Las Vegas shooting...

link
Posted by: Woodrow   2017-10-02 12:26  

#34  Man, props to the local police that responded and breached the door to this killers room within 10 minutes. Unbelievable respo we. May God bless those that run to the sound of the guns.
Posted by: Tennessee   2017-10-02 12:25  

#33  Geary Danley was wrongly assumed to be involved
Posted by: Clyde Mussolini1716   2017-10-02 12:25  

#32  So, what's the latest from the disinformation mills (aka MSM). Are we still at war with Oceania?
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2017-10-02 12:00  

#31  Paddock's roommate, Marilou Danley, has been found and spoke with police, who do not believe she is involved, as she is out of the country

How convenient.
Posted by: gorb   2017-10-02 11:53  

#30  24 hour rule always should be in effect for mass shootings.
Posted by: Capsu78   2017-10-02 11:37  

#29  Morning news was shitting kittens, which is a reminder to shake out my BS filters.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2017-10-02 11:28  

#28  Girlfriend Danley was apparently out of country, making several trips lately, but was reportedly Indonesian, the most populous Muslim country today. Something is odd, as she is still married to Geary Danley, but living with Paddock.

https://www.facebook.com/marilou.danley/about
Here's some info on Marilou's hubby. Do the math:

Geary Danley is a fan of the The Rachel Maddow Show​ and liked several pages on Facebook​ including Thank You Obama, Anti-Trump Army, Progressive Day, Organizing for Action, Not My President, Proud to Be A Democrat, Fight Trump, Boycott All Things Trump, and Impeach Trump. Geary is a Democrat and is registered to vote in Washoe County, Nevada​.
Posted by: Whavish Thusoling5684   2017-10-02 11:15  

#27  Raw Story reports Mr. Paddock is basically retired, spending his time gambling and going to shows. Also, there were 22,000 attending the Country & Western festival.

Most of the commenters at the link assume the shooter is a rightwing NPR type, and they are nasty about it.
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-02 11:10  

#26  Not a joke on my part. Amaq puts out 2 messages: one claiming as soldier of Islam, another sez he converted a few months ago. They provide no evidence for either. I've got salt shakers in both hands
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2017-10-02 11:07  

#25  GP article Has ISIS claiming credit.
Posted by: Whavish Thusoling5684   2017-10-02 11:05  

#24  3dc, thank you for getting the article up so quickly. To all who added and will continue to add information and links as the situation develops, thank you for making Rantburg the place I go to first when bad things happen. This is self-organized effectiveness at its best.
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-02 11:05  

#23  ISIS claims attack via Amaq

Truly, Rex Mundi, or are you being sarcastic?

Bangkok Billy, do you have a link to the information about the sane Mr. Paddock?

Separately, NPR commenters have thus far nothing negative to say about President Trump's brief speech.
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-02 11:00  

#22  ISIS claims attack via Amaq
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2017-10-02 10:46  

#21  This is why you shouldn't be able to buy automatic machine guns through the loophole at the gunshows without a background check"


Sorry Frank G, you're late. I heard this one on my way out at 7:30 this morning (EDT).
Posted by: AlanC   2017-10-02 10:39  

#20  Berne supporter that is fighting back against the fascists?

My theory
Posted by: DarthVader   2017-10-02 09:39  

#19  Can't imagine there will be many tears from the elite over this - no victim group: shooter was an old white guy and the victims statistically white conservatives. It's just a crisis that can't be wasted.
Posted by: Glenmore   2017-10-02 09:13  

#18  "This is why you shouldn't be able to buy automatic machine guns through the loophole at the gunshows without a background check"

in 5...4...3...
Posted by: Frank G   2017-10-02 09:03  

#17  Unfortunately this guy was considerably more accurate than most, and at several hundred yards range.
Posted by: Glenmore   2017-10-02 08:45  

#16  The guy reportedly had "multiple weapons in the hotel room." Reportedly had a "criminal record." Unless it was a string of misdemeanors, it sounds like a felon in possession of firearms scenario...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2017-10-02 08:32  

#15  Anti-gun lobby in 5..4
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2017-10-02 08:26  

#14  
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2017-10-02 08:23  

#13  First picture of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock who killed 50 in 'worst mass shooting in US history'
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-10-02 08:21  

#12   Daily Mail summary at this time.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-10-02 08:10  

#11  Turns out shooter is 64.

If I'd been out till quarter to three

Would you lock the door

Will you still need me, will you still feed me

When I'm sixty-four?
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-02 07:26  

#10  Betcha the shooter thought they were striking against "white supremacism".
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2017-10-02 07:06  

#9  Still going w/same motive.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2017-10-02 06:53  

#8  Stephen Craig Paddock Is another name
Posted by: Clyde Mussolini1716   2017-10-02 06:07  

#7  Here's some info on Marilou's hubby. Do the math.

Press blackout. Betcha.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2017-10-02 05:41  

#6  Here's some info on Marilou's hubby. Do the math.

Geary Danley is a fan of the The Rachel Maddow Show​ and liked several pages on Facebook​ including Thank You Obama, Anti-Trump Army, Progressive Day, Organizing for Action, Not My President, Proud to Be A Democrat, Fight Trump, Boycott All Things Trump, and Impeach Trump. Geary is a Democrat and is registered to vote in Washoe County, Nevada​.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2017-10-02 05:32  

#5  Possibly this woman is the one they want.
https://www.facebook.com/marilou.danley/about?lst=1377314640%3A1571423906%3A1506933702
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-02 04:44  

#4  Looking for a Mary Lou Danley who is the killer's roommate.
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-02 04:41  

#3  Looking for 2 cars with known plates.
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-02 04:39  

#2  4:36 EDT - 20+ dead 100+ injured still finding more.
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-02 04:38  

#1  Looks like the shooter was a Vegas local
With an automatic weapon and high-capacity magazines
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-02 04:36  

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