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Afghanistan
US strikes on Taliban opium labs won't work, say Afghan farmers
2017-11-24
[AlAhram] As U.S. and Afghan forces pound Taliban
...Arabic for students...
 drug factories this week, farmers in the country's largest opium producing-province and narcotics experts say the strategy just repeats previous failed efforts to stamp out the trade.

U.S. Army General John Nicholson, who heads NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis....
-led forces in Afghanistan, announced on Monday a new strategy of attacking opium factories, saying he wanted to hit the Taliban "where it hurts, in their narcotics financing".

Critics say the policy risks further civilian casualties and turning large swathes of the population dependent on poppy cultivation against the Afghan government.

"The Taliban will not be affected by this as much as ordinary people," said Mohammad Nabi, a poppy farmer in Nad Ali district in the southern province of Helmand
...an Afghan province populated mostly by Pashtuns, adjacent to Injun country in Pak Balochistan...
, the heartland of opium production.

"Farmers are not growing poppies for fun. If factories are closed and businesses are gone, then how will they provide food for their families?"
How did they do so before they turned to opium in recent years?
Opium production in Afghanistan reached record highs this year, up 87 percent, according to the United Nations
...an organization which on balance has done more bad than good, with the good not done well and the bad done thoroughly...
The U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) said last week that output of opium from poppy seeds in Afghanistan, the world's main source of heroin, stood at around 9,000 metric tons in 2017, worth an estimated $1.4 billion on leaving the farms.

In Helmand, cultivation area increased 79 percent.
See? More farmers taking up the trade, and those previously involved increased their acreage devoted to the crop. So they can go back to whatever they did before.
Publicising the new strategy, which he said was open-ended, Nicholson showed one video of an F-22 fighter jet dropping 250-pound bombs on two buildings, emphasising that a nearby third building was left unscathed.

U.S. troops have long been accused of causing unnecessary collateral damage and civilian deaths. The United States says it takes every precaution to avoid civilian casualties.

The four-star general emphasised that farmers were not the targets.

"They are largely compelled to grow the poppy and this is kind of a tragic part of the story," said Nicholson.

"WHACK-A-MOLE"
Experts, however, question whether the new strategy will have an impact on Taliban financing.
Of course they do. Or ar least the experts quoted by the journalists do. Any other experts are like trees falling unheard in the forest.
"All these things have been tried before and not produced effective results. If they had, we wouldn't be where we are now," said Orzala Nemat, director of the Kabul-based Afghanistan Research and Evaluation Unit, which has been researching the country's drug trade for a decade and a half.

Another analyst said it was simply a futile game of "whack-a-mole."

Those familiar with the drug industry in Afghanistan said it would only take three or four days to replace a lab, which generally has a low sunk-cost.
Get inside their replacement loop, and that will change.
They also say it was not just the Taliban involved in Afghanistan's drug trade.

"Drugs are elemental to the political economy of Afghanistan, to those who rule and to those who oppose that rule," said one analyst, asking not to be named.

Prior to being ousted by U.S.-led forces in 2001, the Taliban virtually eliminated the trade, saying it was forbidden by Islam.
And then, realizing how much money there was to be made, they restarted it under their own control. This explains their current involvement.
The United States and its Western allies, the Afghan government and United Nations have made repeated efforts since to eradicate poppy cultivation, including encouraging farmers to cultivate alternatives such as saffron, spraying poppy fields with herbicide, and destroying labs.

However,
a good lie finds more believers than a bad truth...
 they have not made any serious headway in stemming the rise in drug production.
They haven’t been consistently serious about it.
The issue underlines problems faced by the Afghan government and its allies, as they seek to cut off a major source of financing for the Taliban and stem the flow of drugs to Europe.

The Taliban said that U.S. forces were mistaken in their targeting and were hitting civilians.
Yes, but they are the Taliban’s civilians, which makes them a good deal less civilian than other civilians.
"There are no drug producing factories in these areas. Invading Americans are carrying out these attacks based on false information and to make propaganda, which most of its victims are civilians," said Taliban front man Qari Yousuf Ahmadi on Wednesday.
That is one perspective, to be sure.
Although World Bank projections show Afghanistan's economy picking up modestly, the improvement is more than offset by population growth, leaving many in rural areas saying they have no alternative to growing poppies.
Educating the girls will go far to fix that problem. Making birth control available will take care of the rest.
"The government must provide jobs so people can feed their families and survive," said poppy farmer Haji Daoud in Sangin, Helmand. "It should provide security and infrastructure."
Posted by:trailing wife

#12  yep
Posted by: Frank G   2017-11-24 20:04  

#11  Some idiot must have written that. You don't get opium from poppy seeds. You have to slit the poppy head and collect the liquid.
Posted by: DonM   2017-11-24 17:07  

#10  Carfentanil seems to be a big problem wherever it is coming from.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-11-24 15:54  

#9  Last year a new rail line was inaugurated from Afghanistan to China, greatly shortening the time to get goods to Shanghai. The USPS (as best I can tell) will deliver all packages from foreign sources even if they have not passed any customs inspection, and even if the post office has no information about what the package contains or whence it originated. It is far cheaper to ship parcels from China to a US address than it is to ship parcels within the US. It is known that the deadly drug carfentanyl is being shipped into the USA this way.
Doesn't anyone see this as a problem?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-11-24 15:37  

#8   Never let anyone from Afghanistan or any of the countries that border it into this country.
Tell that to the federal judges who keep obstructing the efforts of POTUS to do just that. Or better yet, impeach the SOB's.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-11-24 15:30  

#7  There will always be a demand for opiates and there will always be evil men eager to supply opiates for profit. That's why I don't give a rat's ass about the hearts and minds of poppy growers or how they're going to feed their families. Screw 'em, bomb 'em, poison 'em and then leave them to the tender mercies of their beloved Taliban. Never let anyone from Afghanistan or any of the countries that border it into this country.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2017-11-24 15:02  

#6  How do you dry up the demand for opiates in the U.S.?
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-11-24 13:42  

#5  If factories are closed and businesses are gone, then how will they provide food for their families?

Ask me if I care.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2017-11-24 13:28  

#4  Note the squealing. That tells ya the piggies are hurting
Posted by: Frank G   2017-11-24 09:08  

#3  Ha! Ain't nobody that would fall for that!
Posted by: gorb   2017-11-24 03:54  

#2  "The government must provide jobs so people can feed their families and survive," said poppy farmer Haji Daoud in Sangin, Helmand. "It should provide security and infrastructure."

Dope dealers don't want 'jobs,' they want porous borders and free access to public markets.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-11-24 02:23  

#1  Roundup. KC 10. Some assembly required.
Posted by: gorb   2017-11-24 01:24  

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