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-Land of the Free

This Week in Guns, November 25th, 2017

2017-11-25

By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were steady. Rifle ammunition prices were mostly steady.

Prices for used pistols were lower. Prices for used rifles were mostly lower.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Foundry35, Silver Bear, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own Brand, CRN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .19 per round (From Last Week: -.01 After Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Mart, Buffalo Cartridge, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TPMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Extreme Reloading, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Fedarm, Own brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads .13 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Bang It Ammo, Precision One, JSP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: American Reloading, Own brand, TMJ, Aluminum Casing, Reloads, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: AmmoMen, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .53 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (7 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Target Sports USA, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .85 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Target Sports USA, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .85 per round (From Last Week: +.03 Each

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds (12 Max Boxes): Red River Reloading, Federal, Brass Casing, JSP, 2.36 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Wholesale Hunter, Federal, Brass Casing, JSP, 2.36 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 5,000 rounds: Ammomen, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $400 Last Week Avg: $420(-) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (14 Weeks))
Arizona (201, 3Q, 2017(+3))(127, 139): Mixed Build: $450 ($625 (14 Weeks), $300 (13 Weeks))
Texas (484, 3Q, 2017(+3))(382, 388): Doublestar: $450 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (249, 3Q, 2017(+6))(154, 155): Mixed Build: $350 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(192, 193): Bushmaster Carbon 15: $350 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $350 (3 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(434, 466): Anderson Manufacturing: $400 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: 4900 Last Week Avg: $865(+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (25 Weeks))
Arizona (49, 3Q, 2017(+6))(39, 41): Palmetto State Armory: $850 ($2,300 (24 Weeks), $500 (7 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(90, 89): DPMS: $700 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $675 (12 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(48, 47): Armalite: $1,200 ($1,600 (4Q, 2016), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (86, 3Q, 2017)(65, 60): DPMS: $1,000 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $675 (3 Weeks))
Florida (128, 3Q, 2017(+3))(95, 91): DPMS: $750 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $571 Last Week Avg: $529(+) ($668 (3Q, 2016), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (34, 3Q, 2017(+3))(17, 16): Atlantic Firearms: $925 ($900 (24 Weeks), $400 (29 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(65, 58): CAI: $550 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(54, 56): WASR 10: $500 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(55, 61): Norinco: $300 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $300 (3 Weeks))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(121, 114):IO: $580 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $400 Last Week Avg: $360(+) ($495 (4Q, 2016), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(6, 6): Marlin: $500 ($500 (44 Weeks), $200 (29 Weeks))
Texas (33, 3Q, 2017)(31, 28): Marlin: $400 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (28 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(13, 13): Winchester 94: $300 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (19, 3Q, 2017(+3))(14, 13): Marlin 336w: $400 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(28, 24): Winchester 94: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $460 Last Week Avg: $480(-) ($525 (3Q, 2016), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (134, 3Q, 2017(+5))(99, 106): Kimber Pro Carry II: $600 ($700 (28 Weeks), $325 (14 Weeks))
Texas (361, 3Q, 2017 (+3))(229, 252): American Tactical Imports FX45: $400 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (50 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(160, 168): Rock Island Armory: $500 ($600 (16 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (204, 3Q, 2017(+3))(199, 190): Rock Island Armory: $450 ($775 (16 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(370, 378): Llama: $350 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $270 Last Week Avg: $272(-) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (29 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(218, 224): Kel tec P11: $300 ($400 (35 Weeks), $180 (3 Weeks))
Texas (586, 3Q, 2017(+3))(528, 567): Canik TP9: $300 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $180 (15 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(321, 338): Springfield XD9: $250 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (41 Weeks))
Virginia (365, 3Q, 2017(+6))(343, 343): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $250 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(713, 713): Sar: $250 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (29 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $350 Last Week Avg: $351(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (77, 3Q, 2017(+2))(44, 51): Ruger SR40: $350 ($500 (45 Weeks), $195 (25 Weeks))
Texas (156, 3Q, 2017(+2))(111, 114): Beretta PX4: $350 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $180 (8 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (115, 3Q, 2017(+5))(101, 115): Smith and Wesson SW40VE: $350 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (3Q, 2016))
Virginia (109, 3Q, 2017(+4))(95, 95): Smith and Wesson 40C: $400 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (193, 3Q, 2017(+3))(171, 168): Sig-Sauer P250: $300 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Missouri)
PTR91-PDW chambered in 308/7.62 NATO

Posted by:badanov

#13 summer of 2013, when TWIG first was began.

It’s been that long? I’d lost track. I’ve definitely shocked a few people by being able to discuss ammunition pricing trends, even if the data tables are beyond me. But baseball statistics are beyond me, too, so that isn’t surprising.

Posted by: trailing wife 2017-11-25 19:43

#12 Meanwhile, in other parts.

Posted by: Procopius2k 2017-11-25 11:57

#11 Well, at least one business did well under Obama, not so much now.

Posted by: Procopius2k 2017-11-25 11:55

#10 The National Interest: Almost Every Branch of the U.S. Military Used This Weapon (for over Seventy Years)

Posted by: Besoeker 2017-11-25 10:49

#9 TWIGs won't move?
Spoonful of mineral oil.

Posted by: Skidmark 2017-11-25 10:46

#8 Sorry for your problems. Computers = trouble.

Posted by: JohnQC 2017-11-25 09:25

#7 An attempt to move the TWIG archives to my blogs failed due to an insurmountable technical problem. I will be forced to move all ~40 TWIGs manually, and that will take time.

As an aside the changes in prices are almost breathtaking since the summer of 2013, when TWIG first was began.

Posted by: badanov 2017-11-25 08:56

#6 Keep up the great work Badanov.

Posted by: Besoeker 2017-11-25 08:55

#5 Thanks, all.

The only thing I was going to write was an informal range report:

I hadn't been shooting in nearly a year, so I went Tuesday to a private range. I won't bitch about the changes made since I was last there, but the owner did give a FOG discount, which was helpful.

180 rounds fired
No misfires
No jams

End of report.

Posted by: badanov 2017-11-25 08:51

#4 As a shooter, I like badanov's insightful commentary as well. Missed it today. Oh well, I will just have to live without it until the next time or pen a piece myself.

Posted by: JohnQC 2017-11-25 08:06

#3 We're not liberal idiots. We do know how to read and the format presented here is very readable and useful!

You just have to have an interest and understand the subject matter a bit.

The way badanov write this article works fine for me.

Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance 2017-11-25 05:26

#2 This ain't Excel Har and readers here have found it a Useful source of data. But in general thanks for helpful recommendations anyway. :-)

Posted by: Cheretle Angeans6218 2017-11-25 02:19

#1 This text data dump is useless, at the very least it should be in a spreadsheet and ideally should be in graphs.

Posted by: Harcourt Angoluting9366 2017-11-25 02:06

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