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| Dutch spies watched as Russians hacked US Democrats |
| 2018-01-28 |
| [DAWN] Dutch intelligence services have provided "crucial evidence" to US counterparts about Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, Dutch media reported on Friday. After penetrating the network of Russian hackers known as Cozy Bear, the Dutch agents alerted US spy chiefs as they watched the Russians transfer "thousands" of Democratic Party emails ahead of the presidential vote. The Dutch national intelligence service (AIVD) had been watching the notorious group since 2014, according to the respected Volkskrant daily, and a Dutch TV news programme Nieuwsuur. They have provided "crucial evidence of the Russian involvement" as well as "technical" proof in the hacking of the US Democratic Party, the reports said, citing anonymous US and Dutch sources. After digging themselves by chance into the Russians’ computer network run out of a university building near Moscow’s Red Square, the Dutch agents also gained access to the security cameras surveilling the room. "Not only can the intelligence service now see what the Russians are doing, they can also see who’s doing it," the Volkskrant said. The AIVD alerted its US counterparts when in 2015 it became a "witness to the Russian hackers harassing and penetrating the leaders of the Democratic Party, transferring thousands of emails and documents," it said. "Yet, it will be months before the United States realise what this warning means: that with these hacks the Russians have interfered with the American elections. And the AIVD hackers have seen it happening before their very eyes." Pictures obtained from the security cameras, led the AIVD to conclude that Cozy Bear is directed by Russia’s external intelligence agency, the SVR. Cozy Bear has been widely blamed for meddling in the American elections won by Republican President Donald Trump ...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States... Despite Trump’s vehement denials of working with the Russians, his White House is now under investigation for possible collusion by special prosecutor Robert Mueller. The information provided by the Dutch was "relevant material" to Mueller’s team, Volkskrant said. In the past eight months, members of Trump’s campaign, family and White House staff have all been interviewed, and four indictments have been issued, with two guilty pleas as the investigation has spiralled closer to Trump himself. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #9 Frank, the Dems seemed to think so. They were so sure they had it rigged. They have not yet recovered from their Swamp Queen losing. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2018-01-28 17:35 |
| #8 DNC and US election? They are not one in the same, are they? To any sentient human being? No |
| Posted by: Frank G 2018-01-28 15:17 |
| #7 Did you notice the articles kept saying the Russians "hacked the US election" when in fact the story was about attempts to hack the DNC? DNC and US election? They are not one in the same, are they? |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2018-01-28 13:48 |
| #6 A last ditch effort to prop up the collusion/it was the Russians narrative. Do you really think the two premier hackers in the world would let a couple of Dutch kids hack into their surveillance cameras??? Really am I that stupid to believe this story? The Israelis are different. If this story had come out of one of the Shin Bet front organizations, I would sit up and pay attention. It didn't so to me this just more liberal hide the story with BS. Still trying to undercut the study that showed the emails weren't hacked, it had to be a download. AND falling for a pfishing scam?? Really? Crap even my free copy of AVG can cut out a pfishing attack...or was the DNC using that Russian antivirus stuff... |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2018-01-28 13:19 |
| #5 Dems are getting more unhinged the closer they get to indictments. Posted by JohnQC They'll catch a break when McShame passes on. At least a week or more dirges and mind numbing, media eulogies. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2018-01-28 12:32 |
| #4 Dems are getting more unhinged the closer they get to indictments. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2018-01-28 10:49 |
| #3 “The Dutch access provides crucial evidence of the Russian involvement in the hacking of the Democratic Party, according to six American and Dutch sources who are familiar with the material, but wish to remain anonymous.” but wish to remain anonymous? Really? There is an alternative interpretation of the facts published at Zero Hedge. Dutch ‘Cozy Bear’ Farce Does Not Show DNC Emails Were Hacked By Russians. Here. Crowdstrike was the only organization to see the DNC servers. Crowdstrike has been linked to the DNC/Hillary. They backed off on the assertion that it was the Russians. Seems like Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear are back in vogue. Moreover, Comey and the FBI never obtained the servers for forensic examination. In light of recent information about the behavior of members of the FBI and DOJ during the Obama administration, IMO there needs to be a thorough examination of this entire fake Dem Russian dossier, the DNC servers, Hillary's servergate and everyone involved in this Dem manufactured mess. Previously, Adam Carter has made a good argument, based on forensic analysis, for information on the DNC servers most likely being taken by Dem-insider and whistleblower Seth Rich. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2018-01-28 10:48 |
| #2 Dipshit John Podesta getting phished is NOT hacking |
| Posted by: Frank G 2018-01-28 08:55 |
| #1 with two guilty pleas For lying. Nothing to do with the Russians. BTW, who planted this Dutch gambit? Who's verified it? |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2018-01-28 08:32 |