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Kissinger: 'Temptation to Deal' with North Korea 'with a Pre-emptive Attack is Strong'
2018-02-02
[PJ] WASHINGTON ‐ While he said he agrees with the aggressive statements President Trump has fired at North Korea, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger warned Congress last week against potential military intervention near Russian and Chinese borders without the world’s support.

The Trump administration has signaled that North Korea would be crossing a red line if it developed nuclear capability for its intercontinental ballistic missile program. Yet some policy officials and military experts claim that North Korea has already crossed that line, or is at least very close to attaching nuclear warheads to its missiles.

Kissinger offered his thoughts on the impending "fork in the road," in which the administration may consider pre-emptive military action or increasingly tighter sanctions against the regime.
Posted by:Besoeker

#13  Invite Chinese ambassador to WH, and whisper "Tariffs" in his ear.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-02-02 17:51  

#12  Read Ralph D. Sawyer, he has a list of ancient Chinese books on warfare, spycraft and politics translated into highly readable English prose. Very informative.
North Korea is classic, Classic Imperialist China diplomacy where you make 'barbarians fight barbarians'.
As to Kissinger... Just go away and terrorize the weeds in your retirement garden.
Posted by: magpie   2018-02-02 12:55  

#11  Newc "Point is, whatever your plans, leave democrats out of it because they are useless to all war fighting in the end. "

Addendum, if you can't win the war 100% before the next Presidential election you might want to rethink entirely as they will sabotage and undo whatever good works you might complete.

This makes us almost isolationist but there isn't much choice when one party is willing to trash foreign policy gains in exchange for political gains.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2018-02-02 11:48  

#10  Do you like apples?

Really?
A Soviet incursion into Turkey?
US massing forces to stabilize the Pacific Rim?
No wonder Formosa is atwitter.
Posted by: Skidmark   2018-02-02 08:20  

#9  Russiaand China would gladly take the US down over that piece of shit fucking shithole north korea? Something more is afoot. And My anger will grow. Posted by newc

North Korea, Cuba, Angola, Vietnam, North Korea a second time..... all useful communist proxy efforts. Yes, most here have seen at least a few of these play out.

Kissinger knows any preemptive strike against the NORKS will produce a Chinese response.... and there goes his Walmart, Target, import-export financial empire. FRA people tend to think in terms of not disrupting fixed incomes. Henry is probably no different.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-02-02 06:48  

#8  What say you, grom?
Posted by: newc   2018-02-02 06:13  

#7  Let me put it this way, the western movies and the Torah is correct. If man is trying to kill you, you must kill them first. But this is not that.

This is "I want to hold something together as a shit sandwich, my Lord... kumbyah."

Well, let US watch for awhile.

I don't think any of you really know what you want for your nations. Maybe I do not think you know your nations.

Do you like apples?
Posted by: newc   2018-02-02 06:10  

#6  Russia and China would gladly take the US down over that piece of shit fucking shithole north korea?

Down ---> on, IMO.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-02-02 06:05  

#5  "So, at most, you only need agreement from Russia & China?"

Well this is usually the ping pong strategy betwixt the two and US.

A couple adversaries park a hundred thousand troops at the river Y on each border with the commie idiots they set up to antagonize US.

Is it bait? Is it a trap? Can China and Russia actually work together?

Or were they caught unawares that this may be serious. The fake handshake happened after Trump put Kim on notice.

What happened is we ask China, then Russia, then China, then Russia again. And we are watching Captain Kangaroo and it is raining pingpong balls because we are it. '

America is the pinball wizard in theatre.

Everyone eyes each-other with suspicion even as that guy shoots off rockets - he could be the rock they fight US over?

Are you really fucking kidding me ?
Russia and China would gladly take the US down over that piece of shit fucking shithole north korea?

Something more is afoot. And My anger will grow.
Posted by: newc   2018-02-02 06:03  

#4  Kissinger warned Congress last week against potential military intervention near Russian and Chinese borders without the world’s support.

So, at most, you only need agreement from Russia & China?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-02-02 05:36  

#3  "Maybe we can get undead Zombie Robert McNamara to weigh in."

They sure gave him more rope than Rummy.
At least Rumsfield followed through and changed strategy albeit late.

The Bush Admin was prepping for the Messiah to come and save them while Bob McNamara was running a meat grinder with no stabilization of unit integrity.

At all points, the democrats not only tried to make US lose but were giddy when we did.

I F....

I hate the democrat party. I FHate it.


Point is, whatever your plans, leave democrats out of it because they are useless to all war fighting in the end.

Just kidding. Have many democrats advise you, but just don't trust their strategy ever because they have none.

I think a better plan for DPRK has been found and will see what it brings in time.
Posted by: newc   2018-02-02 03:32  

#2  Maybe we can get undead Zombie Robert McNamara to weigh in.
Posted by: SteveS   2018-02-02 02:11  

#1  This coming from one of the primary architects of US Foreign policy during the war in Vietnam.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-02-02 01:29  

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