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'YOU'RE IGNORANT' Brit doctors and nurses hit back at Donald Trump after he slammed ‘broke' NHS
2018-02-06
[TheSun] The US president earlier claimed in a tweet that the troubles experienced by the state-funded system are proof countries should not offer universal healthcare to all their citizens.

He wrote: "The Democrats are pushing for Universal HealthCare while thousands of people are marching in the UK because their U system is going broke and not working.

"Dems want to greatly raise taxes for really bad and non-personal medical care. No thanks!"
Fair enough. I don't see people like the Canada's Health Minister flocking to England for complicated health care.
But medical staff hit back at the Republican today, telling him to keep his opinions to himself.

Nurse Natasha White tweeted: "How DARE you criticise our NHS. I am a Nurse working for this fantastic organisation.

"It's not perfect, it needs more money but it offers some of the best healthcare in the world to all ‐ no matter how much money you have or have not.
Yep. Just like Trump said, needs more money.
"Don’t comment on what you haven't experienced."

Another named Danielle wrote: "Trump we were marching because the government are broke and not working.
Just like Trump said.
"They have failed our NHS, it's staff, patients and the whole country. We love our universal health system and as a nurse I am proud to work in it."
Yep. Just like Trump said.
And Sami Jo Joyce said: "Trump as an NHS nurse in the UK, I feel more qualified than yourself to comment on this.
Yep. A nurse vs. the leader of the free world. Makes sense.
"People were protesting about low pay/and the government’s attempts to privatise the NHS!

"Universal healthcare helps more than it hinders!
Well, let's rephrase that. How about something like "UHC is cheap but better than nothing at all."
"You come across as an ignorant individual in my country."
Sounds kinda funny considering everyone equates the feelz about their work with how good it actually is.
Trump's comments were a reference to a march in London over the weekend which saw thousands of people protest against the NHS funding crisis.
Just like Trump said.
Labour MPs and campaigners joined the demonstration which ended up at the gates of Downing Street, claiming the health service needs more cash or it will risk collapsing.
Just like Trump said. The UHC system can't seem to pay for itself like a private system could.
The tweet sparked an angry response from Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, who insisted the NHS is far superior to the US system.

He said: "I may disagree with claims made on that march but not ONE of them wants to live in a system where 28million people have no cover.
OK. So we can have an alternate system for anyone who needs it. But I don't think we need to spread the misery equally like Socialists do, in which case everyone suffers. I'd rather have both systems very available. And I'm willing to bet that the rich in England can buy anything they want as fast as they want it. It's just a smaller slice of the population who can afford the private insurance there.
"NHS may have challenges but I’m proud to be from the country that invented universal coverage - where all get care no matter the size of their bank balance."
Are there death panels?
Mrs May supported him this afternoon, saying the minister's statement "speaks for the Government".

The PM's spokesman added: "The Prime Minister is proud of having an NHS that is free at the point of delivery. NHS funding is at a record high and was prioritised in the Budget with an extra £2.8billion."
Wow. Not. But it sounds like you get a fair amount of coverage for not a lot of money.
Simon Stevens, head of the NHS, said Mr Trump had "the wrong end of the stick" and invited the President to visit British hospitals to see the health system up close.
Would he have to wait in line to get a crown?
He told MPs at a committee hearing: "Unfortunately and respectfully I think we'd suggest that tweet got the wrong end of the stick.

"In fact people in this country don't want to ditch our NHS, notwithstanding everything that we've been talking about today, they want to keep it and strengthen it."
And shorten the lines. And get rid of the death panels. And make their own decisions.
Jeremy Corbyn responded to Mr Trump: "Wrong. People were marching because we love our NHS and hate what the Tories are doing to it. Healthcare is a human right."
Another reason not to have UHC. The government always spoils things after a good start.
Shadow health secretary Jon Ashworth said: "Labour will take no lessons from Donald Trump who wants to deny healthcare to millions in America with a system that checks your purse before it checks your pulse."
Or your age before they check the government's purse?
Lib Dem health spokesman Baroness Jolly added: "Trump is dangerously deluded about the NHS. He needs to read up on how his own health system works before attacking others.
Who says we want UHC like yours?
"The NHS is a jewel in the crown of UK society. We should always be proud of the fact that British people can see a doctor without the fear and anxiety of being hit by a massive medical bill."
Or mistaking your nuts for your tonsils.
The President's friend Piers Morgan tweeted: "Wrong, Mr President. Our NHS is a wonderful, albeit imperfect, health system - and the envy of the world. By comparison, the US healthcare system is a sick joke & the envy of no-one."
The more the government gets involved, the truer that statement.
Mr Trump's tweet came minutes after former Ukip boss Nigel Farage was on TV in the States talking about the pressures on the NHS and the march.

Mr Farage told Fox News: "The National Health Service has turned into the International Health Service and we're providing a lot of healthcare for people coming into Britain from all over the world.
Another reason NOT to have UHC.
"Right now it's pretty much at breaking point. The big point is that when the state gives benefits to people then any attempt in the future to reform it or take those benefits back becomes politically impossible.
Unlike private health care.
"That's the big debate that you need to have in America. If you were to introduce universal healthcare, paid for centrally under taxes, you would never ever be able to remove it."
Yup. And it's what cheap politicians do to curry votes. Good luck fixing the damage done in the process.
Mr Trump’s remarks risk stirring up further anger among Brits after he previously claimed the UK is riddled with terrorists - prompting calls for the President's invitation for a state visit to Britain to be revoked.
Golly. I guess the news I see mean nothing.
Just 10 days ago, he seemed to have made up with Theresa May when the pair pledged to work closely together as they meet in Davos for the first time since Mr Trump retweeted anti-Muslim propaganda from Britain First.
We tried the Hope & Change route here, and it didn't work so well. Better to deal with reality.
The President had been due to visit London this month to open the new US embassy in Battersea, but scrapped his plans saying he was angry the building had cost so much and was in an "off location".

He is still scheduled to come here in October, on a trip which is likely to be met with mass protests.

Mr Trump's comments on the NHS are meant as an attack on the opposition Democrats, who want the government to play a bigger role in providing healthcare to Americans.

Currently only elderly and poor people can get free care in the US, with everyone else buying health insurance.
Elderly and poor sounds good. Too bad the bar on "poor" is so high.
Some Democrats - including potential challengers to Mr Trump in the 2020 election - are calling for the US to move to a system more similar to the NHS.
Hopefully the voters here can figure it out.
Posted by:gorb

#9  You run a butcher shop.
Posted by: newc   2018-02-06 17:25  

#8  >He writes the NHS is completely worthless.

It's worse than that! It's economically and socially malicious
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2018-02-06 14:45  

#7  So go their teeth, so goes their system.
Posted by: Clem Kadiddlehopper9000   2018-02-06 14:15  

#6  Hair stylist gushed to me about her European vacation: everyone had neat haircuts (?) and free, no FREE, health care! When I observed that "It isn't 'Free' -- someone has to pay for it." there was deafening silence from behind me...
Posted by: magpie   2018-02-06 13:46  

#5  'YOU'RE IGNORANT' = you don't understand/respect our feelings!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-02-06 13:18  

#4  We all know it's essentially the British version of The Final Solution for the british lower classes. And their shrill attempts at defending it are laughable.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2018-02-06 13:11  

#3  "Trump we were marching because the government are broke and not working."

Looks like your public schools have failed as well
Posted by: Frank G   2018-02-06 13:03  

#2  I seem to recall they wouldn't even let a patient leave to another country where the kid could get life-saving surgery. So they are not only semi-worthless, they are murdering zealots.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2018-02-06 10:23  

#1  I just finished a book written by a British veteran. He writes the NHS is completely worthless.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2018-02-06 09:56  

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