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Economy
Harvey, the first domino in Illinois: 400 other pension funds could trigger garnishment
2018-04-16
[Wirepoints] You’d be mistaken to think Harvey, Illinois has a unique pension crisis. It may be the first, and its problems may be the most severe, but the reality is the mess is everywhere, from East St. Louis to Rockford and from Quincy to Danville. A review of Illinois Department of Insurance pension data shows that Harvey could be just the start of a flood of garnishments across the state (click here to see the list).

Harvey made the news last year when an Illinois court ordered the municipality to hike its property taxes to properly fund the Harvey firefighter pension fund, which is just 22 percent funded.

Now, the state has stepped in on behalf of Harvey’s police pension fund. The state comptroller has begun garnishing the city’s tax revenues to make up what the municipality failed to contribute. In response, the city has announced that 40 public safety employees will be laid off.

Under state law, pensions that don’t receive required funding may demand the Illinois Comptroller intercept their municipality’s tax revenues. More than 400 police and fire pension funds, or 63 percent of Illinois’ 651 total downstate public safety funds, received less funding than what was required from their cities in 2016 ‐ the most recent year for which statewide data is available.

Two-thirds of Illinois’ 355 police pension funds failed to receive their full required contribution in 2016. And 60 percent of Illinois’ 296 firefighter pension funds suffered the same fate.

If those same numbers continue to hold true, all those cities face the risk of having their revenues intercepted by the comptroller.
Posted by:Besoeker

#16  Obviously its time for an 'Affordable Retirement Act' where they take everyone's pension, IRA, and 401K and split them up equally (1).
Why should Jim who blew all his earnings on a wasteful lifestyle have to suffer while John, who scrapped and saved for his retirement has it easy? Its not fair! Its RACIST I tell you!!! (with exclamation points and everything...)

(1) of course some people are more equal than others.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2018-04-16 19:40  

#15  Sure, you live 75 miles from downtown, but look at all the "benefits" you receive

Similar to living 20 miles from Atlanta. You're safely out of small arms range.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-04-16 16:03  

#14  Re: #9: that has already been floated out here in the hinterlands surrounding Seattlestan, but as it impacts homeless ( aka bums) ; we peasants should take our fair share so the amaoznians and microsofties don't have to step over them and dodge their sidewalk doo-doo.....
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2018-04-16 15:33  

#13  Whomever a politician signs a contract to pay someone money beyond their ability to pay, that politician should have their pension taken to help pay for it.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2018-04-16 13:43  

#12  When courts nationwide start imposing / spiking taxes to satisfy the many local government contractually bound (yet impossible to satisfy) promises to pay pensions to their retirees, THAT'S when it will get ugly.
Recall the states are forbidden from passing any "Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts" - but this doesn't apply to courts or to the federal legislature.
Coming soon to a country near you. It is already predictable using simple math.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2018-04-16 12:47  

#11  When Pensions fail in California, and they will, and they dismantle Prop 13 to increase the property taxes, and they will, it's going to get ugly very fast.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2018-04-16 12:02  

#10  Wages of Socialism
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-04-16 11:52  

#9  More and more urban areas are going to try to adopt the "regional asset district" model. Sure, you live 75 miles from downtown, but look at all the "benefits" you receive from being a "neighbor." It's working out so well in Pissburgh...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2018-04-16 11:46  

#8  If pension funds fail in other blue cities...
Posted by: JohnQC   2018-04-16 11:34  

#7  Whew! We left Illinois in 2000--and we're happier every day that we did.
Posted by: Tom   2018-04-16 11:23  

#6  In that part of the Illinois 3rd-world, the U-Hauls wouldn't be 'rented' Raj.

They'd be appropriated.

If there are any U-Haul dealers still in the area, that is.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2018-04-16 10:16  

#5  Can't wait to see the U-Haul rental numbers for that town over the next six months.
Posted by: Raj   2018-04-16 09:59  

#4  So what happens when all of Harvey's tax revenue gets "intercepted" and the pensions are still short?

Besides the fact Harvey pretty much ceases to exist as a city.
Posted by: DarthVader   2018-04-16 09:40  

#3  ...yep, and in the 'old' republic, the power to raise and levy taxes was solely reserved in the legislative branch.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-04-16 08:33  

#2  Harvey made the news last year when an Illinois court ordered the municipality to hike its property taxes...

Only proving once again who really owns so-called "private property."
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-04-16 07:00  

#1  ...As the Old Perfessor says:

"That which cannot go on forever, won't."

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2018-04-16 04:46  

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