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Syria reportedly only fired 2 air defense missiles during the US strike, and then fired 38 more blindly
2018-04-19
• Syrian air defenses activated and fired interceptor missiles during the US, UK, France's strike, but reportedly only a couple had a chance of hitting their targets.

• Syria fired only two missiles during the strike and the remaining 38 after the attack had already concluded, US government sources said.

• Syria may have fired the missiles to make it look like it was intercepting US missiles.


Syrian air defenses activated and fired interceptor missiles during the US, UK, and France's missile strike on the country's suspected chemical weapons sites, but only two of those reportedly had a chance of hitting their targets.

US government sources tell Ankit Panda writing at The Daily Beast that only two missiles fired from Syria's air defenses took off during the actual strike, and they both failed. Another 38 launched after the strike took place, and obviously found no target, according to Panda's sources.

The report from Panda matches pictures taken on the night of the strike that show missile defense sites firing on ballistic trajectories that don't resemble the paths they'd take to actually intercept a missile.

"The trajectory that I've seen from footage of reported Syrian SAMs don't match up with what I'd expect to see for intercept attempts against low-flying cruise missiles," Justin Bronk, an air-combat expert at the Royal United Services Institute, told Business Insider. "I don't believe the Russian/Syrian intercept claims."
I recall seeing some maneuvering, but not much. Maybe the missiles were occasionally homing on each other?
Nonetheless, Russia and Syria claimed their missile defenses had downed 71 of the 105 US and allied missiles fired, a bold claim considering they're only known to have fired 40 interceptors.

"Most of the launches occurred after our strike was over," US Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie, the Joint Staff director, said of Syria's interceptor fires. "When you shoot iron into the air without guidance, it has to come down somewhere."

But Syria is also home to advanced Russian missile defense systems treated with a healthy respect by NATO and the US, but the US says those launchers remained silent throughout the strike.

Days later, Syrian air defenses again fired off interceptors at nothing, this time claiming the US and Israel had hit them with a cyber attack.

Why Syria fired missiles blindly with no targets in sight remains a mystery, as they had no chance of hitting anything, but it's possible the attempted intercepts were staged as theater.

Here's what a real multiple missile interception looks like:


Here's what the Russians claim are downed allied missiles. I didn't see anything that screamed Tomahawk at me, but I don't know what the rest of the missiles that were used look like. These seem kind of puny, short and streamlined to be a cruise missile, but they are puny, short and streamlined like I would expect an interceptor missile to look like. Maybe I'm wrong.


Here's some raw footage of allied missiles blowing up when they hit their target. No rocket trails visible, which is kind of what I expect from a cruise missile. Maybe I'm wrong.


There is some footage of the interceptor missiles being launched all over YouTube that you can search for. Basically the same stuff over and over again. I didn't see much maneuvering. There is some Russian stuff that doesn't show the skyline in Syria, so I didn't include it here.
Posted by:gorb

#10  Mike - they hit air. Does that count?
Posted by: Frank G   2018-04-19 18:21  

#9  ...Ummm....the parts they show in the video as 'Tomahawks'...?

They're Russian air-to-air missiles.

Or what's left of them, anyways. :D

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2018-04-19 18:16  

#8  Change the https to http.
Posted by: 3dc   2018-04-19 17:58  

#7  No, uh, they were just following basic blackout procedure, yeah, that's the ticket...
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2018-04-19 17:26  

#6  
Posted by: Skidmark   2018-04-19 17:24  

#5  From the last video (allied missiles exploding) it seems every single missile the Syrians missed landed within 20 seconds in that view.

I noticed the power went out, too.
Posted by: Bobby   2018-04-19 17:15  

#4  I'll look at both ideas. Thanks.
Posted by: gorb   2018-04-19 16:33  

#3  too many links - Fred's spam catcher won't allow more than 2 (IIRC)
Posted by: Frank G   2018-04-19 16:00  

#2  Remove the slash in front of the "https" and the links will work just fine!
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance   2018-04-19 15:57  

#1  I hate YouTube embeds. Sorry, mods. Need help here.
Posted by: gorb   2018-04-19 14:30  

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