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If Trump continues pushing Europeans, it would bring an end to NATO -- Wimmer
2018-07-13
[RT] Donald Trump
...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States...
’s policy of pressuring European countries on issues like defense spending, Russia cooperation or trade will ultimately end NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A single organization with differing goals, equipment, language, doctrine, and structure....
, Willy Wimmer, Germany’s former State Secretary for Defense, told RT.
The 75 year old has been out of power since 2010, though he had a long parliamentary career in the CDU until then.
Commenting on the outcome of this week’s NATO summit in Brussels, during which the US president criticized European members of the alliance of spending too little on defense and berated Germany for buying natural gas from Russia, Wimmer said Trump was going too far.

"If any Western European government would follow these ideas of Washington, they would be kicked out of office by their own population," he predicted. "There is no feeling among Western Europeans that there is a military, economic or political threat by the Russian Federation, which would justify the behavior of President Trump in Brussels."

"The only response to the US approach would be an end of NATO," he warned, adding that such an outcome is not what European governments want.
Requiring the governments of Europe to fulfill their obligations according to the treaty establishing NATO is too much to expect? Well then, let us dissolve it and move to something more realistic, “with malice toward none, with charity for all,” as President Lincoln said.
Wimmer said the alliance has been losing popularity among Europeans, especially in the past few years when US military adventures triggered a chain of events that was really hurtful for Europe.

"If NATO continues its policies, it would lose all the support it had in the past," he said. "Western European population is no longer willing to support Anglo-Saxon wars in our neighborhood. When we look at the migration crisis in Western Europe, it is directly linked to NATO wars in Afghanistan and Mali.

"NATO became outdated the moment we adopted the Charter of Gay Paree in November 1990. No longer war in Europe. And NATO brought war back to Europe," Wimmer added.
Posted by:Fred

#9  Re: #5...hmm... I take your point.
Posted by: Sholusing Omomotch1366   2018-07-13 12:37  

#8  If Trump continues pushing Europeans, it would bring an end to NATO

If that's all the respect they have for NATO, then maybe it's time to shutter the organization.
Posted by: gorb   2018-07-13 12:16  

#7  Eventually they will either be muslim, or do horrible things to cut that cancer out of their countries. Posted by DarthVader

My take as well. Why would we want to be involved in either scenario? If the foks are not warring, their not happy.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-07-13 11:27  

#6  Given the decline and death of western Europe and its culture, cutting ties now is logical. Russia couldn't fight Georgia very well and their mercenaries got stopped cold in the Ukraine. NATO is little more than a club to belly up to the Uncle Sugar's trough and being able to strut around like a peacock at parties.

Long past time to cut ourselves free of this mess and let them continue their slow decline. Eventually they will either be muslim, or do horrible things to cut that cancer out of their countries.
Posted by: DarthVader   2018-07-13 09:52  

#5  understand the feeling... but on the other hand would you rather fight in the Fulda Gap or the Cumberland Gap?

Given Deep State and the Coasties, don't make me choose.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-07-13 08:50  

#4  Russia, the Baltic States, or Former Soviet Union (FSU), whatever name you use will not abide an Islamic Europe for long. It may not be this year, or the next, but Islam never disappoints in the bringing of conflict.

Bolton and some of the other strategists may see this on the horizon. With Erdogan's Turkey as a foretelling of things to come, getting out of NATO now rather than later may become a trend.
Posted by: Besoeker   2018-07-13 07:42  

#3  understand the feeling... but on the other hand would you rather fight in the Fulda Gap or the Cumberland Gap?
Posted by: Sholusing Omomotch1366   2018-07-13 07:35  

#2  Excellent!

USA out of NATO. They don't want us there, we are sick and tired for paying for free defense for their ungrateful asses.
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2018-07-13 02:10  

#1  "There is no feeling among Western Europeans that there is a military, economic or political threat by the Russian Federation, which would justify the behavior of President Trump in Brussels."

Let's find out!
Posted by: Raj   2018-07-13 00:42  

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