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Transgender activists slam US govt plan to define gender as ‘male’ and ‘female’ based on biology
2018-10-23
[RT] Transgender activists are up in arms over reports that the Trump administration is considering a policy which would require government agencies to define a person’s sex based solely on biological considerations.

According to a New York Times

...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize...
 report, the Department of Health and Human Services is planning to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, a federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination.

While many transgender activists argue that a person’s gender is largely their own choice, a department memo seen by the Times argues that a person’s sex should be defined "on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable," with a person’s genitals at birth defining their gender.

"The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence," the memo reportedly reads.

The news was met with fury by transgender activists, and a protest was held in New York’s Washington Square on Sunday night. The Transgender Law Center said that the proposal is an effort "to erase our very existence as trans people," and accused the Trump administration of planning "the destruction of our communities."
Posted by:Fred

#17  I saw the future at a Missouri State Park last summer - 20 individual rest rooms, all the same. Toilets, no urinals. I went in after a mother and small child. It was messier than most men's rooms!
Posted by: Bobby   2018-10-23 20:37  

#16  But I can imagine how confusing it must be for these people.

The best thing that can be done for those whose self-image does not match their physical sex is cognitive-behavioural therapy to help them accept themselves. This doesn’t mean they must become frilly females or macho men — it is a mistake of categorization to demand that all those who have or lack a Y chromosome must behave and dress within narrow and rigid parameters.
Posted by: trailing wife   2018-10-23 20:10  

#15  Sorry, Jack. You don't know people born with a brain of a male and body of a female, or a body of a female and the brain of a male. I do. For a very few, not all switches in the brain click to the same sex as the equipment would indicate. These medical disorders are documented in the Disorders of sex development (DSD).

I am not advocating for a 3rd birth sex. You are either XX or XY. But I can imagine how confusing it must be for these people.
Posted by: Shart the Low-priced4103   2018-10-23 19:53  

#14  I meant before the law. I hate when I do that
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2018-10-23 19:24  

#13  #7 - you're welcome :-)
Posted by: Frank G   2018-10-23 19:17  

#12  If they want to be treated equally before the,that's fine by me. But it is not equal treatment if I am required to call you by any of 59 gender pronouns you've dreamed up. You got wedding tackle. Use the men's room. No wedding tackle, use the ladies.
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2018-10-23 18:53  

#11  I don't think that transgenders should be discriminated against; it's too late to choose the amount of prenatal androgen exposure one had as a fetus. While they might feel uncomfortable using a male/female bathroom they have to understand that others may be similarly uncomfortable sharing the same. The trap is that they cause as much discomfort in others as they feel themselves.

What is the solution? Building three bathrooms: Male, female, and in-between?

If a state or local government feels strongly enough about it they can change the building codes.
Posted by: Shart the Low-priced4103   2018-10-23 18:43  

#10  In my 20's I thought about getting a tattoo and stopped at the following thought: "Will I be happy in 20 years with this 'thing' on my arm?"
Plastic surgery, particularly gender changing surgery is just a wee bit more permanent than a tattoo.
Posted by: magpie   2018-10-23 18:39  

#9  How does having a gender defined as male and female adversely affect transgenders?

OED defines transgender as, "Denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."

Seems like if you don't have a defined birth sex you can't claim to be transgender.
Posted by: Shart the Low-priced4103   2018-10-23 17:59  

#8  For those who didn't know, like me:

Bingo wings are those flabby bits of skin under the arm. Most women (and some men!) have them,
Posted by: jvalentour   2018-10-23 14:19  

#7  Frank I'm stealing that one!
Posted by: DarthVader   2018-10-23 09:17  

#6  "Transgender activists are up in arms"

otherwise known as Men with Bingo Wings
Posted by: Frank G   2018-10-23 09:02  

#5  Science™, bitches!
Posted by: Frank G   2018-10-23 09:01  

#4  The new taboo: More people regret sex change and want to ‘detransition’, Belgrade surgeon says

[NationalPost] Dr. Miroslav Djordjevic says more people, particularly transgender women over 30, are asking for reversal surgery, yet their regrets remain taboo.

To date, all of his reversals have been transgender women aged over 30 wanting to restore their male genitalia. Over the last two decades, the average age of his patients has more than halved, from 45 to 21. While the World Professional Association for Transgender Health guidelines currently state nobody under the age of 18 should undergo surgery, Prof Djordjevic fears this age limit could soon be reduced to include minors. Were that to happen, he says, he would refuse to abide by the rules. “I’m afraid what will happen five to 10 years later with this person,” he says. “It is more than about surgery; it’s an issue of human rights. I could not accept them as a patient as I’d be afraid what would happen to their mind.”
Posted by: trailing wife   2018-10-23 08:33  

#3  Does it have or did it originally have a prostate?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-10-23 07:23  

#2  The news was met with fury by transgender activists

You can save that phrase and make it a single stroke input for every article from now on.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2018-10-23 06:32  

#1  roughly one birth in 2000 has enough ambiguity in their sex organs to be labelled Hermaphrodites (having both male and female body parts.) However, only one of those is functional.
Posted by: Ptah   2018-10-23 04:28  

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