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| 2018-12-07 |
| h/t Instapundit Some people, on both the "Left" and "Right" have been talking about revolution. Whether it’s "We need to get rid of those fascist right-winging KKK Nazis" or "we need to get rid of those liberal commie pinko hippies" or whatever, the idea of using widespread violence to overthrow the existing order and impose ones own has been gaining steam. ...But what if it’s the side that wants less government intrusion into people’s lives, less control, and less bureaucracy, you have a real problem. How do you set that up so it sticks past even one election cycle (presuming you have elections in whatever you set up)? So, are you going to have a Constitution? How will you establish that Constitution? Will you just write it and impose it on the population or will you use some mechanism, any mechanism, to give the people some voice in the Constitution you establish? If you don’t have a Constitution, how are you going to limit the government, not just now but in the future? High level decision: are you going to let the people have a say in their own government or are you just going to force on them the government (strong or weak) which you want them to have? If the latter, how are you any better than the people who wanted to impose their government on the people? (And if you say "no government" then how do you prevent someone else from coming along and establishing their own choice of government on you?) And if, instead, you allow the people to choose, the same people that voted in the government you just overthrew, what is to stop them from just voting back the same thing once more, rendering that whole insurrection and civil war an exercise in futility with the blood being shed for nothing. |
| Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
| #8 RJ, by the time this point would roll around, I suspect all sane conservatives forced to live there will have already left. While it would happen fast, the build up would not be quick. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2018-12-07 22:45 |
| #7 All this assumes no guns, of course. |
| Posted by: gorb 2018-12-07 21:10 |
| #6 Silentbrick, give a month for conservatives trapped behind enemy lines to leave before you shoot everyone. Also have them move to one specific state that can be watched carefully in case of infiltrators and such. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2018-12-07 15:06 |
| #5 Repealing the Progressive amendments would be a start. 16, 17. Repeal the commerce clause or severely limit it. And emphasize 9 & 10th amendments. Do that, and you'd fix a great many things that are broken. Power moves back to the states. Add term limits amendment for the house and senate, and a balanced budget amendment with an anti-omnibus-bill clause requiring explicit financing information in each bill. That fixes even more problems. Address the grow-never-shrink nature of the federal government: Toss in a sunset amendment requiring all laws/regulations to expire after 5 years unless explicity renewed. Address corruption and back-room deals: Add a sunshine amendment requiring all but classified national security issues to be openly presented and debated online to anyone that wants to see them prior to voting in committee or the floor, and all bills have to explicitly cite their constitutional basis. Allow any amount of campaign contributions but they must be publicly declared within 24 hours and that includes the source unless its less than $100. You do those things, and the nation reboots into something it should have been: A Republic of Laws where the rights and liberty of individuals are the highest value. |
| Posted by: Glolush Whusotch4899 2018-12-07 13:12 |
| #4 A bunch of competing states barely held together by common interest and a federal government is what then. That was the intent in the constitution, it was broken by the Civil War but there is no reason it can't be recreated. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2018-12-07 11:50 |
| #3 Why do they assume there would be any lefties alive in the US after the war? I mean, kill food, power and water to the cities, shoot people trying to leave and in about 4 months, there basically are no democrat strongholds because there are no democrats. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2018-12-07 11:39 |
| #2 "carry a big stick" |
| Posted by: 746 2018-12-07 11:10 |
| #1 So the only way is more of the same, until everyone is out-leftying everyone else. And then, one day, from each according to his abilities; to each according to her needs. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2018-12-07 10:43 |