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Home Front: Politix
Democrats Immediately Reject Trump's Offer to End Shutdown
2019-01-20
[PJ] If Donald Trump thought he could end the partial government shutdown by dangling some tantalizing tidbits to Democrats on DACA recipients and Temporary Protected Status holders, he was immediately disabused of that notion when the Democratic leadership flatly rejected his proposals.

The Hill:
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said that Trump offering some protections for DACA and TPS recipients "in exchange for the wall is not a compromise but more hostage taking."
Trump "keeps putting forward one-sided and ineffective remedies. There’s only way out: open up the government, Mr. President, and then Democrats and Republicans can have a civil discussion and come up with bipartisan solutions," Schumer added.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), in a statement released shortly before Trump's speech, said the proposal couldn't pass the House and is a "non-starter."

Was this just more political maneuvering by the president or a genuine effort to end the stalemate on the budget?
Posted by:Besoeker

#15  ...they expect the military to obey them. History shows games like that shatters the military. Given that there are not enough even of the uniform military to cover all the infrastructure, they'll fall back upon the local 1)true believers, 2)their other loyal voting group, felons (penal battalions with promises of 'free other peoples' stuff'), and 3) [the classic] cannon fodder. They've demonstrated time and again, they don't understand war. They don't understand real history. It's just like the socialists, they figure they just got to find the right people to do it. Meanwhile, they'll keep the mob motivated. Then the black swan event occurs.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-01-20 19:03  

#14  P2K, I don't know who you think is gonna do all this fighting. I understand that underestimating one's enemy is piss poor strategy but, try as I might, I cannot picture these people raising an army, certainly not the kind that would have any hope of taking Camp Pendleton.



That said, if Nancy doesn't want to negotiate about the Dreamers then Trump should start deporting them.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2019-01-20 16:11  

#13  The national representatives are divided beyond the ability to compromise. They are further apart than during Lincolns time. We are headed for dark times...
Posted by: 49 Pan   2019-01-20 15:06  

#12  I've read some pretty credible explanations saying that the current shutdown situation does not meet the requirements for a RIF. I certainly hope he can RIF a bunch of the workforce.
Posted by: Neville Gonque3407   2019-01-20 14:17  

#11  Dems are so accustomed to winning these standoffs that any other outcome is unthinkable.
Posted by: Iblis   2019-01-20 12:08  

#10  If Dems refuse to accept reasonable compromise for a vote they agreed to under previous administrations the polls will start to drastically tip towards Trump's favor.
Posted by: ruprecht   2019-01-20 11:57  

#9  He's showing flexibility. She's showing she's more afraid of her parties left
Posted by: Frank G   2019-01-20 11:17  

#8  By their behavior we can see which side is/believes it is winning - Pelosi is standing fast and Trump is offering concessions... Trump must feel he is losing in the polls.
Posted by: Glenmore   2019-01-20 10:57  

#7  House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), in a statement released shortly before Trump's speech


"whatever his proposal is, it's rejected. But he's responsible for the shutdown"
Posted by: Frank G   2019-01-20 09:05  

#6  All the government workers who voted democrat got what they asked for. Idiots.
Posted by: Fat Bob Glaise8594   2019-01-20 08:33  

#5  The Dems attitude toward the US citizen:

Posted by: Neville Dark Lord of the Wee Folk7365   2019-01-20 08:31  

#4  It's not about the wall. It's about power. Like the Gracchus brother attempt to dilute the power of the vote to all of Roman Italy beyond the tribes of Rome. The Donks are now clearly signalling that they want to dilute the power of 'Americans' with non-Americans. Like Rome, there will be a civil war. Look around and enjoy what you see and experience cause when the war gets going, it will all disappear. Think of a Katrina event but not isolated to one region, but the whole country. There will be no one from the outside rushing to 'rescue' you and get services back on line.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-01-20 07:48  

#3  Now that Dems have turned down the offer Trump should no longer negotiate and just start turning up the heat: cancel all remittances to Mexico and Central America, turn up deportations in Blue States, tighten up the border with additional state national guard, begin furlough of GIVERnment employees....
Posted by: Airandee   2019-01-20 06:07  

#2  On the food stamp timeline. If you have poor areas on your commute it might be worth changing your route.
Posted by: 3dc   2019-01-20 02:17  

#1  Last gesture before 30 days then RIF and no money for food stamps rear their heads.

If numbers of the 800,000 have worked enough free days or are veterans or high level managers they have a chance of retaining those jobs. Otherwise they need to pray Donald Trump doesn't enter a hardball game and yell RIF!
Posted by: 3dc   2019-01-20 02:16  

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