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India-Pakistan
Muslim world’s lagging behind in science bemoaned
2019-03-01
When jihad outranks research, the outcome follows.
[DAWN] At the opening ceremony of the 5th Science and Technology Exchange Prog­ramme (STEP) International Conference at Bloody Karachi
...formerly the capital of Pakistain, now merely its most important port and financial center. It is among the largest cities in the world, with a population of 18 million, most of whom hate each other and many of whom are armed and dangerous...
 University (KU), speakers expressed concern over the alarming decline in the sectors of education, science and technology and called for united efforts to change this dismal situation.

The event, titled ’Health challenges of communicable diseases and non-communicable diseases’, was organised at the KU’s International Centre for Chemical and Biological Sciences (ICCBS).

Dr Panjwani Centre for Molecular Medicine and Drug Research (PCMD) of the ICCBS hosted the science conference in collaboration with Mustafa (PTUI!) Science and Technology Foundation (MSTF) in Iran.

Regretting lack of progress in science and technology in the Moslem world, Prof Atta-ur-Rahman, chairman of the Task Force on Technology Driven Knowledge Economy, said it’s unfortunate that not a single institution in Moslem countries had been conferred with the Nobel Prize so far.

"The challenges of the 21st century require that Pakistain change its economic directions. We must drastically change the strategy for socio-economic development as natural resources have lost their importance," he said.

It was the ability of nations to manufacture and export high value-added goods, which determined their state of development, he added.

Citing Singapore’s example in this regard, he pointed out that it was for this reason alone that tiny Singapore with a population 40 times less than that of Pakistain had exports of $330 billion, 15 times higher than those of Pakistain.
Posted by:Fred

#14  And then there's opportunity cost...

Depict for us Europe, O fictor,
Unsqueezed by an Arab constrictor,
And Rome in the East
Still secure in her lease
Till the Mongols arrive to evict her.

Or not.
Posted by: Elmeaque Snomoque3655   2019-03-01 23:48  

#13  So Islam really has offered nothing useful to civilization...
Posted by: Vernal Hatrack2366   2019-03-01 17:26  

#12  Interesting, thanks for the links Gromgoru.
Posted by: Vernal Hatrack2366   2019-03-01 17:25  

#11  Mohamed Abdus Salam, an Amadi Muslim from Pakistan

Following the loss of Bangladesh, in 1974 Prime Minister, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto constitutionally redefined the Ahmadi sect as not Muslim. As far as I can tell, functionally the Ahmadiyyas were, until that moment, the Gulenists of Pakistan, so their takedown from positions of leadership throughout Pakistani society was gleefully pursued by those who had been outcompeted by them. Much more here.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-03-01 14:10  

#10  Lateen sail - 2nd century AD, Roman.
"Arabic" numerals - 5th century India.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-03-01 14:03  

#9  The Arabs did manage to give the world two major things that have made the modern world possible though. Their sails (further modified of course) made colonization of the Americas possible, and Arabic numerals were vastly superior to the Roman ones still in use in Europe even in the beginning of the Renaissance. But since then, Islam has basically given people war, plagues, and heartache, to varying degrees.
Posted by: Vernal Hatrack2366   2019-03-01 13:42  

#8  The conception that the Muslim world was the leading light in science at the time Europe was in the dark (or at least pre-dawn) ages is correct, but ignores the fact that their pre-eminence came from conquering and co-opting the then-leading Greek science base, particularly in Alexandria.

Given that the Koran and Hadith are basically spooky-mystical, Islamic scientific progress has suffered greatly since then. On the other hand, the current "intersectionality/diversity/pick any gender but pizza" fads in western education will even the playing field and we'll all be digging in the dirt with a stick in a few years.
Posted by: Crapper Splat1312   2019-03-01 12:18  

#7  Islam. Just need the Koran.
Socialists. Just need Das Kapital.

Seems to be a pattern.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2019-03-01 08:56  

#6  ^ Ummm no. All pre-MoHamHead

The earliest written records indicate the Egyptians and Babylonians used all the elementary arithmetic operations as early as 2000 BC. These artifacts do not always reveal the specific process used for solving problems, but the characteristics of the particular numeral system strongly influence the complexity of the methods. The hieroglyphic system for Egyptian numerals, like the later Roman numerals, descended from tally marks used for counting. In both cases, this origin resulted in values that used a decimal base but did not include positional notation. Complex calculations with Roman numerals required the assistance of a counting board or the Roman abacus to obtain the results.

Early number systems that included positional notation were not decimal, including the sexagesimal (base 60) system for Babylonian numerals and the vigesimal (base 20) system that defined Maya numerals. Because of this place-value concept, the ability to reuse the same digits for different values contributed to simpler and more efficient methods of calculation.

The continuous historical development of modern arithmetic starts with the Hellenistic civilization of ancient Greece, although it originated much later than the Babylonian and Egyptian examples. Prior to the works of Euclid around 300 BC, Greek studies in mathematics overlapped with philosophical and mystical beliefs. For example, Nicomachus summarized the viewpoint of the earlier Pythagorean approach to numbers, and their relationships to each other, in his Introduction to Arithmetic.
Posted by: Frank G   2019-03-01 07:43  

#5  they gave arithmetic
Posted by: 746   2019-03-01 07:13  

#4  but they've memorized the Holy Crayon
Posted by: Frank G   2019-03-01 07:11  

#3  Not doing so well in the, formerly, West too.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-03-01 01:35  

#2  I thought you and the democrats created "science"?
Posted by: newc   2019-03-01 01:13  

#1  Pakistan had a Nobel winner in Physics. Mohamed Abdus Salam, an Amadi Muslim from Pakistan, won the Nobel in 1979 with Weinberg and Glasshow for Electro Weak unification.
Posted by: Albemarle Gray4543   2019-03-01 01:03  

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