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Real Hedge-Fund Managers Have Some Thoughts on What Epstein Was Actually Doing
2019-07-13
[Intelligencer] Long before Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to prostitution charges in Florida more than a decade ago, his fellow Palm Beach resident and hedge-fund manager Douglas Kass was intrigued by the local gossip about his neighbor.

"I’m hearing about the parties, hearing about a guy who’s throwing money around," says Kass, president of Seabreeze Partners Management. While stories about young girls swarming Epstein’s waterfront mansion and the sex parties he hosted for the rich and powerful were the talk of the town, Kass was more focused on how this obscure person, rumored to be managing billions of dollars, had become so wealthy without much of a track record.

Kass was well-connected on Wall Street, where he’d worked for decades, so he began to ask around. "I went to my institutional brokers, to their trading desks and asked if they ever traded with him. I did it a few times until the date when he was arrested," he recalls. "Not one institutional trading desk, primary or secondary, had ever traded with Epstein’s firm."

When a reporter came to interview Kass about Bernie Madoff shortly before that firm blew up in the biggest Ponzi scheme ever, Kass told her, "There’s another guy who reminds me of Madoff that no one trades with." That man was Jeffrey Epstein.

"How did he get the money?" Kass kept asking.

For decades, Epstein has been credulously described as a big-time hedge-fund manager and a billionaire, even though there’s not a lot of evidence that he is either. There appears little chance the public is going to get definitive answers anytime soon. In a July 11 letter to the New York federal judge overseeing Epstein’s sex-trafficking case, Epstein’s attorney offered to provide "sealed disclosures" about Epstein’s finances to determine the size of the bond he would need to post to secure his release from jail pending trial. His brother, Mark, and a friend even offered to chip in if necessary.

Naturally, this air of mystery has especially piqued the interest of real-life, non-pretend hedge-funders. If this guy wasn’t playing their game ‐ and they seem pretty sure he was not ‐ what game was he playing? Intelligencer spoke to several prominent hedge-fund managers to get a read on what their practiced eyes are detecting in all the new information that is coming to light about Epstein in the wake of his indictment by federal prosecutors in New York. Most saw signs of something unsavory at the heart of his business model.
Posted by:Besoeker

#15  In the late 70's when Carter came into power, a cousin of my dad's had too high of a GS rating to fire. He was a Pub and Cold Warrior of some renown so Carter appointed him acting Drug Tsar. On his first day at the DEA it took him 2 hours of security checks to finally reach his office. 15 mins later his sectary buzz him that he had visitors. In walked top mobsters. He was no idiot. It took him 2 hours to get in and the mobsters walked in like they owned the place. They obviously did. He quickly figured out a office path back to his CIA/STATE one.
Posted by: 3dc   2019-07-13 11:06  

#14  "Hedge funds" are the new "waste management".

This guy was a pimp.

The question is, who were his initial backers and what were they after?

And as things went on, did other parties get in on the action?

Also, we seem to have yet another case of "everybody knew, but nobody said anything" among the elites.

But remember...they are our betters and we must always obey them.
Posted by: charger   2019-07-13 10:48  

#13  I keep hearing about how the cartels corrupted the Mexican government so I wonder, is it such a stretch of the imagination that they could have corrupted our own government? I mean, why would so many of our politicians be so adamant about opening the border? Is it just the votes they get from illegal aliens or is it something else?
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2019-07-13 10:43  

#12  Let's see the flight logs. Also his home camera footage.
Posted by: Punky Tojo4762   2019-07-13 10:24  

#11  Ref #10: Now the implied link to the Clinton Foundation would have been sort of a money 'honey' pot for certain entities seeking influence.

I'll take "seeking influence" for $600. Alex.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-07-13 09:20  

#10  ...but cartels don't like their money squandered either. Their means of correcting bad behavior would have been obvious by now.

Now the implied link to the Clinton Foundation would have been sort of a money 'honey' pot for certain entities seeking influence. I can think of one with that kind of currency to throw around. Whether they were being hustled or not, as in getting something in return, is another question.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-07-13 09:04  

#9  Actually I think he was laundering cartel money for the DNC and the Clintons. The cartels are the only people with the kind of money he was throwing around.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2019-07-13 08:38  

#8  I think the odds of Epstein being the recipient of a "regretable incident" while in custody while in in custody climb daily.
"Haruph haruph must be investigated fully, guilty parties punished haruph haruph..."
Posted by: ed in texas   2019-07-13 08:37  

#7  My initial thought is money laundering for foreign countries that are "donating" to the Clinton foundation.
Posted by: AlanC   2019-07-13 08:12  

#6  Connected to Bronfman too.

His flights to the island are a who's who of dodgyness.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2019-07-13 06:24  

#5  I think he'll quietly serve time for a minimum of charges that will be played out as 'Justice Served' in the media. He could have more dirt on people that Hoover did. He might also make another deal, with the DoJ - where he's sure to have 'friends'.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-07-13 01:41  

#4  Saw this, and had exactly the same thought many moons ago about this character.

He could never have been a "hedge fund manager" of any real consequence. To do so you have to have:

- many big, known investors (he had none)

- reliable trading desk partners to execute your trades (none of the trading desks ever executed any trades for him)

- lots of specialist employees to raise money, track the money, comply with authorities, manage your IT systems (he had next to none)

- regulatory filings such as 13F disclosures (there were never any).

Add to this the recent disclosure that his houses were full of cameras - hat tip to Ann Coulter on this catch - and it's obvious that the guy's real line was blackmailing wealthy and powerful men.

I'd say 3/2 odds that he's got the Big Dawg under his thumb.

Probably Eliot Spitzer and some other fixtures in the NY Democratic Party as well.
Posted by: Lex   2019-07-13 00:53  

#3  The link works for me, KBK.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-07-13 00:17  

#2  Thanks KBK. I believe it's now working.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-07-13 00:16  

#1  Bad link!
Posted by: KBK   2019-07-13 00:07  

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