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2019-10-27 | ||||
![]() (Via Newsweek) The United States military has conducted a special operations raid targeting one of its most high-value targets, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS), Newsweek has learned. Donald Trump approved the mission nearly a week before it took place. The president will make a statement on Sunday morning at 9 a.m. eastern time, according to NBC News. Newsweek on the kill.
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![]() Well, damn. Just ignore the whole operation, then. Right to left: Army, Marines, Kushner ,Trump, Pence, National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien, if I'm not mistaken. The normal progression in the West is left to right, Fred. Noted for those like me who were confused by going straight to the names.
"Join the Army. See the world. Meet new people. Kill them. Break their shit." ![]() Politico: Dana Shell Smith, a former U.S. ambassador to Qatar, warned that being so descriptive could backfire by stoking more anger toward the United States.She pointed out that former President Barack Obama was far more careful in describing al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden's killing. The Obama administration even pointed out that it gave bin Laden's body an Islamic funeral ritual before slipping it into the ocean. NBC Decries Trump Taking ‘Victory Lap’ After Killing ISIS Leader During NBC’s Sunday Today, chief White House correspondent Hallie Jackson noted that “Trump has repeatedly celebrated what he calls the defeat of ISIS,” but recalled, “He has not talked much personally about al-Baghdadi by name.” The tone and juxtaposition of those points were meant to suggest she was catching Trump in a contradiction.
Russia doubts Trump’s claim about killing Baghdadi ![]() There’s no credible data to prove a successful American raid took place against Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Russia’s Defense Ministry said. The US coalition didn’t even carry out any airstrikes in Idlib recently. Related: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: 2019-09-26 Jihadists Execute Aid Worker Abducted in Nigeria, Says NGO Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: 2019-09-24 First footage shows ISIS captives in SDF prisons Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: 2019-09-24 ISIS allegedly ambushed Syrian, Russian forces in east Homs Related: Russia’s Defense Ministry: 2018-11-29 Russia ‘to deploy new S-400 missiles in Crimea’ Russia’s Defense Ministry: 2018-08-03 Russia says UN peacekeepers patrol Israel-Syria border for first time in years Russia’s Defense Ministry: 2018-05-25 No Russian air defense missile systems crossed Russia-Ukraine border - top brass Related: Islamic State: 2019-10-26 10,000 Syrians cross into Kurdistan Region fleeing Turkish offensive Islamic State: 2019-10-26 Pentagon chief: US troops, armored vehicles going to Syria oil fields Islamic State: 2019-10-26 Afghan official: Taliban attack kills 5, including child Related: Idlib: 2019-10-23 Syria’s Assad backs ‘popular resistance’ against Turkey Idlib: 2019-10-23 Idlib front is main battle to end Syria war: Assad Idlib: 2019-10-20 Russian Air Force unleashes large attack on jihadist base and convoy Related: Jabhat al-Nusra: 2019-10-18 Al-Nusra terrorists launch 22 attacks on safe areas in different provinces Jabhat al-Nusra: 2019-09-16 Hamza bin Laden killed in U.S. raid in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region: White House Jabhat al-Nusra: 2019-09-15 It’s doubly official: Trump confirms killing of al-Qaeda Heir Hamza Bin Laden Related: Florence Parly: 2019-10-15 Turkish, Russian chiefs of staff discuss latest developments in Syria Florence Parly: 2019-08-07 Israel involved in US-led naval mission in Strait of Hormuz — foreign minister Florence Parly: 2019-03-23 France bans 'yellow vest' protests on Paris Champs-Elysees and key sites 'Not a Big Deal' - Iranian Minister ![]() "Not a big deal! You just killed your creature," Jahromi posted on Twitter in response to Trump's tweet reading "Something very big has just happened!"
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Syria villagers tell of quiet neighbour
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Baghdadi killing “vengeance” for Yezidi women: SDF
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From the article: The operation killed nine people including a Daesh senior leader called Abu Yamaan as well as a child and two women, it said. | ||||
Posted by:Frank G |
#47 Not world-changing and waaay too much MediaFrenzy, but anything that disrupts these sumbitches is a positive. Hahaha, that it is Steve. That it is. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-10-27 22:27 |
#46 Also, there are no doubt all sorts of devices and paper records for our clever boys and girls to play with, full of accounts and contacts and calendars... heaven only knows what next will be discovered, prevented, tracked down... Happy hunting, guys! |
Posted by: trailing wife 2019-10-27 22:27 |
#45 Forgive me, you are probably right JHH. I'm just weary of the half-assed efforts, media grab, and politics. Illegitimi non carborundum, man! I agree whacking the guy isn't a world-changing event, but there finally has been a reckoning, and we get to see the roaches scuttle. Looks like we bagged at least one more from that. Plus we get some organizational friction. The top guy is whacked, someone gets picked from the admittedly endless ranks of Number Twos and Threes. Maybe he is competent, maybe not. In any case, the various factions are jostling for position and influence. People who were In are suddenly Out. Plans change. If they were able to whack *him*, how much more do they know? Suspicion is a terrible thing. Not world-changing and waaay too much MediaFrenzy, but anything that disrupts these sumbitches is a positive. |
Posted by: SteveS 2019-10-27 21:23 |
#44 A cute, cuddly critter was Ida, Whose human had pampered and dyed her. Awww, who could stampede her? Somebody call PETA To fight for this shy little spider! |
Posted by: Skunky Sforza6003 2019-10-27 20:28 |
#43 Forgive me, you are probably right JHH. I'm just weary of the half-assed efforts, media grab, and politics. My addled brain is experiencing intermittent circuitry loss. I should probably look for another pastime or hobby. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-10-27 19:18 |
#42 Abu Marion Berry: "Bitch set me up!" |
Posted by: Frank G 2019-10-27 19:09 |
#41 And inertia does not equal strength. Ya gotta take advantages of the opportunities that present themselves, B. |
Posted by: JHH 2019-10-27 16:03 |
#40 His Whack-a-mole replacement arrives in 48 hours. Little is gained here besides the media frenzy. M ≠ P (Motion does not equal progress) |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-10-27 13:29 |
#39 #29 blew hisself up? Mount his head on a pike on the WH lawn. Let the ravens pick at it Nah, put it in Lucite and keep it at our desk at the UN. |
Posted by: Silentbrick 2019-10-27 13:25 |
#38 Next she'll say it was something like high treason that Trump didn't inform Congress. And he could say, "You were all busy beating your breasts for Cummings, I thought it best not to disturb you further." |
Posted by: Dron66046 2019-10-27 13:01 |
#37 Just wondering here, why Pelosi, Schiff et al would "need to know" beforehand? |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2019-10-27 12:58 |
#36 I don't celebrate Diwali but I enjoyed some pyrotechnics with colleagues. It is auspicious in a way. Diwali being the festival of celebration of victory of good over evil. |
Posted by: Dron66046 2019-10-27 12:50 |
#35 decided that Trump was a wimp, a pacifist, a non-fighter for pulling U.S. troops out For a moment there, I almost thought so too. The man just made Sin Tzu Great again. Salute. |
Posted by: Dron66046 2019-10-27 12:41 |
#34 Nancy Pelosi is in a snit because she and her Dem leaders weren't briefed ahead "as were the Russians", and hence not able to leak it |
Posted by: Frank G 2019-10-27 12:19 |
#33 Frank G: It might have been the Camel Spiders sent down the dead-end tunnel Baghdadi was in. We don't know. I mean, if I was over there for years, I'd be trying to train those things for tunnel-clearing... |
Posted by: Charles 2019-10-27 12:16 |
#32 Separately, I found this bit of speculation interesting: Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom! So much for all that "expert" opinion in the last few weeks in the mainstream media that President Trump's pullout of U.S. troops from Syria would inevitably bring the recrudescence of ISIS. Even Saturday Night Live mocked that one, and on the night of the rubout, that didn't age well from even the first minute. It almost makes one wonder if the terrorists themselves were fooled by the media/expert naysaying. The terrorists, who are known to be voracious watchers of CNN and other mainstream news, decided that Trump was a wimp, a pacifist, a non-fighter for pulling U.S. troops out; Trump wouldn't fight them, they thought, leaving them with a field day. The coast was clear and it didn't take long before they popped out of their holes. Such was the suggested thinking of one military expert featured on Fox News, |
Posted by: trailing wife 2019-10-27 12:13 |
#31 I think the point I'd make is, if one side stops fighting and the other side doesn't, who's driving the "endless war?" Seems jihad is are pretty up front about what they consider victory from their standpoint. If I don't want to live in the caliphate, I'd say they have also defined my victory conditions for me. M. Murcek’s expansion on his previous about ignoring wives and teeth nails it. As did his previous, but not everyone appreciates metaphoric language. Congratulations to all involved. Especially to those who knew something was up, but didn’t even so much as hint to outsiders. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2019-10-27 12:07 |
#30 AOSHQ: "How does Ace put it? Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi loses life trampled by stampeding camel spiders and U.S. air raid. But mostly by air raid." |
Posted by: Frank G 2019-10-27 11:46 |
#29 Trump says we already have the next leader of ISIS in our sights, but IIUC only al Bagdadi's children have the proper linage to claim the Caliph. This was a great win but difficult (for a westerner) decisions are ahead. |
Posted by: The peanut gallery 2019-10-27 11:36 |
#28 blew hisself up? Mount his head on a pike on the WH lawn. Let the ravens pick at it |
Posted by: Frank G 2019-10-27 11:33 |
#27 ABAB has been killed several times in the past. Let's hope this he is really on his way to hell this time. It does seem like it. The world is better off. Good going Trump, military and whomever else helped us bring this about. |
Posted by: JohnQC 2019-10-27 11:06 |
#26 Rantingly.com keeps adding links — 15 thus far. Some are tweets with video clips from President Trump’s announcement this morning. I lack the skill to share a screen grab or a copy of that section of the page, and there are good reasons (spam!) why Fred’s code does not allow more than two links per comment. Apparently Iraqi intelligence gets credit for having found him. Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff were not informed ahead of time for fear of leaks. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2019-10-27 11:04 |
#25 Based on the information available so far here's the locations of the Baghdadi compound destroyed in the raid (36.165804, 36.627401), and the destroyed van (36.165769, 36.631570). This is about 5km away from the Turkish border. |
Posted by: 3dc 2019-10-27 10:43 |
#24 #Russia opened up airspace for the #US operation to take place, the intel does appear to have come from #Iraq as per reports earlier. |
Posted by: 3dc 2019-10-27 10:41 |
#23 Syrian Kurdish-led forces - one of the main US allies in northern Syria until President Trump withdrew US troops from the area this month - said they had carried out a "historic" joint operation. Mr Trump praised them, as well as Russia, Iraq, Turkey and Syria for giving "certain support" to the operation. |
Posted by: 3dc 2019-10-27 10:20 |
#22 Cleanup on Aisle 22 (?) |
Posted by: Raj 2019-10-27 10:14 |
#21 He died like a dog. He died like a coward. Donald Trump |
Posted by: One Eyed Ghibelline9404 2019-10-27 09:56 |
#20 a $1 Company |
Posted by: Frank G 2019-10-27 08:41 |
#19 told Newsweek that Baghdadi was killed in the raid. What's Newsweek? |
Posted by: AlanC 2019-10-27 08:38 |
#18 Somehow, I don't think he could have blown himself up. Would be better if the fire team actually strapped him with C4, and said it happened that way. |
Posted by: Dron66046 2019-10-27 07:19 |
#17 I think the point I'd make is, if one side stops fighting and the other side doesn't, who's driving the "endless war?" Seems jihad is are pretty up front about what they consider victory from their standpoint. If I don't want to live in the caliphate, I'd say they have also defined my victory conditions for me. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2019-10-27 06:05 |
#16 As I thought. Whatever Trump does, will prosper. This is a win at the right time. |
Posted by: Dron66046 2019-10-27 06:03 |
#15 Troll |
Posted by: Frank G 2019-10-27 05:58 |
#14 So, endless war. Forever. You're supposed to be arguing against me, not accidentally proving my points! An "own goal" right there. |
Posted by: Herb McCoy 2019-10-27 05:53 |
#13 #11😊😊😊 |
Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2019-10-27 05:19 |
#12 If this is true: ISIS cells in Idlib might have convinced ABB that this was his best bet after the events of the last two weeks. So if Trump authorized the raid a week ago, it might have directly followed from the Turkish invasion and intel tracking ABB’s migration from the Jazira. ... then Trump deserves a lot of credit. We'll see. |
Posted by: Lex 2019-10-27 05:13 |
#11 "victory is just around the corner." The trash will be needing taken out again next week. The toilet will need to be scrubbed again. It never really ends but the only thins that go away if you ignore them are your teeth and your wife. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2019-10-27 04:46 |
#10 https://syria.liveuamap.com Zoom in above Idlib at the Turkish border and go to the live links reporting on the raid. |
Posted by: Pancho Flerens6518 2019-10-27 04:45 |
#9 https://twitter.com/mohmad_rasheed Video from the area. Anything newer than the nearby refinery fire is of the US raid. |
Posted by: Pancho Flerens6518 2019-10-27 04:38 |
#8 He blew himself up by detonating a suicide vest. At least that's what the US DoD says. |
Posted by: Dron66046 2019-10-27 04:31 |
#7 Well that should do it! Victory is surely just around the corner. Now there is even less need for America to be meddling in Syria. |
Posted by: Herb McCoy 2019-10-27 03:02 |
#6 Congratulation to vice leader. |
Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2019-10-27 02:59 |
#5 Seen on the net:The Problem is with Turkey. They knew where bagdahdi was ? And He was in god damn idlib?? |
Posted by: 3dc 2019-10-27 02:41 |
#4 Hopefully this will change some of the political talk |
Posted by: Sherry 2019-10-27 01:00 |
#3 Let us hope they're saying he's killed, while they waterboard the he$$ out of him. |
Posted by: Old Patriot 2019-10-27 00:28 |
#2 Would be a good troll to give partial credit to al qaeda intel |
Posted by: Lord garth 2019-10-27 00:09 |
#1 3 miles from Turkish border. Bets he was living in Turkey? |
Posted by: 3dc 2019-10-27 00:07 |