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Home Front: WoT
New Jersey kosher supermarket shooters ‘targeted the location,' mayor says
2019-12-11
[Times of Israel] Investigators believe that the gunmen in a Tuesday shootout at a kosher supermarket in New Jersey deliberately attacked the store, though there was no immediate word on their suspected motive.

"Based on our initial investigation (which is ongoing) we now believe the active shooters targeted the location they attacked," Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop said.

Authorities had initially said that they did not believe that the JC Kosher Supermarket had been singled out. Fulop did not elaborate on why authorities now believe the market was targeted.

The gun battle left at least six people dead ‐ three bystanders, one police officer and two suspected shooters.

Authorities have not released information on the bystanders or gunmen who were killed, but Chabad identified two of the dead as store owner Leah Minda Ferencz, 33, and Moshe Deutsch, 24, both members of the local Hasidic community.
Any bets the shooters were of an ethnic group and religion that is known to be violently opposed to Jews living?
You win. Update from the Daily Mail at 11:25 a.m. ET:
Jersey City shooter posted anti-Semitic bile online before going on 'targeted' rampage with FEMALE partner in stolen U-Haul that ended in deadly siege at Jewish supermarket
  • Francine Graham and David Anderson opened fire on Detective Joseph Seals at 12.30pm in a cemetery in Jersey City

  • Anderson had been a member of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement made famous by the Covington Catholic High School kerfuffle

  • Before the rampage he had published anti-Semitic and anti-police posts on social media

  • Seals was investigating the murder of livery cab driver Michael Rumberger, who was found dead on Saturday

  • After killing the cop, the gunmen drove a stolen U-Haul to JC Kosher Supermarket nearby

  • They then barricaded themselves inside with a large amount of ammunition and engaged in a two-hour shootout with police and SWAT teams

  • It ended with SWAT teams ramming the storefront; once they got inside, they found the two gunmen dead and three innocent people also killed
Posted by:DarthVader

#26  There is a reason that we need to be armed.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2019-12-11 22:59  

#25  I had the privilege of listening to a group of these guys preaching and ranting on a corner in downtown Memphis a year ago. I kept my white face at a safe distance. They are ostentatiously deluded, and ultra dangerous.
Posted by: Grunter   2019-12-11 20:01  

#24  Why insult Tusken Raiders like that Darth?
Posted by: Secret Master   2019-12-11 19:58  

#23  The story they'd like us, and their lawyers to believe is that their faith includes a narrative of curiously black Israelites carried over by slavers to America.

I stand by my assessment at #17.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 17:05  

#22  Re the Covington Boys and the "Black Hebrew Israelites," the exquisite writer Caitlin Flanagan did a nice write up in The Atlantic. Turns out the Black Hebrews filmed a two hour long video of the whole incident, of which the nutjob fake-war hero Native American provocateur's confrontation was just a very brief minor episode.

The full video reveals that there was indeed a Native American gathering at the Lincoln Memorial, that it took place shortly before the events of the viral video, and that during it the indigenous people had been the subject of a hideous tirade of racist insults and fantasies. But the white students weren’t the people hurling this garbage at them—the young “African American men preaching about the Bible and oppression” were doing it. For they were Black Hebrew Israelites, a tiny sect of people who believe they are the direct descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel, and whose beliefs on a variety of social issues make Mike Pence look like Ram Dass. ...

The full video reveals that these kids had wandered into a Tom Wolfe novel and had no idea how to get out of it.

It seems that the Black Hebrew Israelites had come to the Lincoln Memorial with the express intention of verbally confronting the Native Americans, some of whom had already begun to gather as the video begins, many of them in Native dress. The Black Hebrew Israelites’ leader begins shouting at them: “Before you started worshipping totem poles, you was worshipping the true and living God. Before you became an idol worshipper, you was worshipping the true and living God. This is the reason why this land was taken away from you! Because you worship everything except the most high. You worship every creation except the Creator—and that’s what we are here to tell you to do.”
Posted by: Lex   2019-12-11 16:52  

#21  And they had to keep doing that, and doing that, and doing that, even after their own lawyers suggested they stop or be liable in a lawsuit, because the let the whole video get out of the bag would destroy a number of narratives.

They have shown, time and again, they are willing to flat out distort and lie to point of losing big in court to protect the agenda.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2019-12-11 15:25  

#20  ^ Lily white schoolboys shouting obscenities in deep wakandan baritones. This was the implicit 'news'.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 15:13  

#19  Every propaganda arm cut out the black hebrews and their slurs, acknowledged slurs were cast but showed the white kids during the statement, implying it was the white kids slurring the indian.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2019-12-11 15:10  

#18  So there WAS a connection. Which means the Video of the incident was probably recorded by the Black Hebrew members. Oh boy, did the Convington lawsuit just become more interesting.

Were either of the two shooters part of the group in Jan? Nuclear implosion of Woke heads would occur.
Posted by: Charles   2019-12-11 14:51  

#17  They're probably all scum, low down criminals hiding their real activity in their militant communes, under a veneer of cultism. Taking refuge in your 1st amendment under religious rights and making 'secularism' work for them. And they chose the one religion they think would not be challenged by the white po po. Very obvious really.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 14:51  

#16  Charles, that guy was a wacko red injun wannabe, but these guys were there too. They were the one's hollering curses and profanity at the white school children.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 14:45  

#15  Re: #13
It's like a Venn diagram for the intersection of Kwanza and Halloween.
Posted by: SteveS   2019-12-11 14:43  

#14  Maybe I'm wrong (likely), but wasn't the guy who walked in front of the Convington kids a Black Hebrew members, or had some connection?
Posted by: Charles   2019-12-11 14:42  

#13  I mean I'd heard of cultural misappropriation, but this is fucking ridiculous !

Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 14:34  

#12  Damn - Black Hebrew want-a-bees!

Earth is deep in a stupid beam.
Posted by: 3dc   2019-12-11 14:26  

#11  Haven't been keeping up are the MSM still searching for a motive?
Posted by: jpal   2019-12-11 13:56  

#10  video at https://twitter.com/Breaking911
Posted by: lord garth   2019-12-11 13:12  

#9  Bystander are those poor souls stuck between that UPS truck and Broward County deputies.

Sounding like targets, or objectives, would be the better descriptor.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2019-12-11 12:11  

#8  I suspect it will be discovered that Mr. Anderson has been hanging out at jihadi websites recently, and self-radicalized.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-12-11 12:05  

#7  Owners were bystanders?

According to the Daily Mail update, the shooters drove calmly in their stolen U-Haul truck to the kosher shop after killing the policeman in the cemetery. It looks like the shop was targeted, the intent being a massacre of all within before moving on to the synagogue and school — they had “a large amount of ammunition” with which to do so.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-12-11 12:03  

#6  Well, that's the last we'll bear about that story.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2019-12-11 11:32  

#5  The "Black Hebrews" are certifiably insane.

These are the same rabid nutjobs that were haranguing and in the face of Nick Sandmann and the other Covington boys. Completely whacked.
Posted by: Lex   2019-12-11 11:11  

#4  Owners were bystanders?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2019-12-11 11:05  

#3  A black woman and black man, in trenchcoats and black clothing. Armed with hi-powered rifles and carrying enough ammo for a firefight with SWAT.

Now, the black supremacist hebrews crazy club seems to be involved. A group of ...

...okay names just in as I was writing.


David Anderson and Francine Graham. Of the Black Hebrew Movement. A sick-in-the-head cult, too stupid and bestial to share the planet with.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 10:57  

#2  people are free to assume.

I feel so racist ....
Posted by: gorb   2019-12-11 10:34  

#1  Fulop did not elaborate on why authorities now believe the market was targeted.

If they were white supremacist/nazi types it would be blaring at us 24/7 now, so the facts are obvious. If the hypocrite administrations and media will not release data, people are free to assume.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-12-11 10:27  

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