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Two Possibilities in Trump Wiretapping, and Neither Is Good |
2019-12-29 |
![]() First, an American citizen, Carter Page, was targeted by our government for electronic surveillance under FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act). Per the Act, his Fourth Amendment guarantee of privacy was judicially "suspended" to allow law enforcement to intercept and monitor his private communications. Ostensibly, the FISA court would allow this intrusion based on presented facts that indicated that Page was participating in an activity that was reasonably considered to be a threat to national security and was, in effect, the agent of a foreign power. According to the I.G., the determination to surveil Page was based on second hand information provided by a member of a friendly foreign government and bolstered by reporting in the "Steele dossier". Accepting the subjective judgement that the investigation was adequately predicated does not mitigate the disaster that followed. |
Posted by:Besoeker |
#12 "No, not intentionally." That's when the "incidental collection" bird came down. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-12-29 16:10 |
#11 When is someone going to prison over this? |
Posted by: JohnQC 2019-12-29 14:35 |
#10 Pretty much opens the door for anyone to tap anyone any time. I'd image not much thought went into that. |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2019-12-29 12:58 |
#9 Those who signed the FISA applications should be fired, deprived of their pensions, disbarred if attorneys and made ineligible for government employ. Prosecution may follow. |
Posted by: daniel 2019-12-29 12:16 |
#8 Ref #7: The depth of the rot is horrific .... Yes, the rot, it seems to grow with each passing week. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-12-29 12:08 |
#7 They were grossly overconfident that Hildabeest would win and this would be both covered and encouraged during her rule. The underlying issue is how deeply in the tank the bureaucracy in Washington is for the democrat party. The bureaucracy serves a political goal far more than the nation as a whole. The depth of the rot is horrific .... |
Posted by: NoMoreBS 2019-12-29 12:01 |
#6 At a minimum, any participants and managers who should have known should be ripped out and dumped on the street. |
Posted by: gorb 2019-12-29 07:59 |
#5 This scandal deserves its own Warren Commission-style inquiry to see whether FISA should even be allowed to continue and if so, with what types of reforms. The thing is obviously broken. |
Posted by: Lex 2019-12-29 07:40 |
#4 /\ Yes, after the Bureau returned to FISA for a third renewal on Carter Page (without additional documentation or incriminating evidence), the 'look the other way' sign should have been flashing boldly. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-12-29 07:09 |
#3 Judge Rosemary Collyer gave the FBI until January 10 to explain to the court why the FBI should be allowed to continue to utilize FISA. The answer is they should not be allowed. |
Posted by: Glenmore 2019-12-29 07:05 |
#2 I suspect the FISA judge(s) were complicit as well and are only now throwing the FBI under the bus in self defense. |
Posted by: Glenmore 2019-12-29 07:04 |
#1 Two possibilities? I would offer a third: The FBI was a partner to an interagency agreement and could not extract itself from the FISA abuse vehicle without betraying it's partnership and possibly foreign intelligence participation. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2019-12-29 01:21 |