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Van Jones: ‘Unbelievable' Bernie ‘Failed' to Reject Soviet-style Socialism
2020-02-26
[Breitbart] CNN political commentator and former Obama adviser Van Jones during his network’s post-Democratic presidential debate wrap-up acknowledged he was disappointed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) did not reject "authoritarian" socialism during the debate.

Jones said, "I was disappointed with Bernie’s answer on the socialism question. He had to know it was coming. There’s no reason to do a big retrospective, nostalgia, scream fest about authoritarian regimes from the 70s. It was an opportunity for Bernie to clarify to the people when he says Democratic Socialism that’s the point. It’s not that stuff from Cuba. It’s not that stuff from the Soviet Union. It’s the stuff in Northern Europe that’s working for normal people."

He added, "He failed to do it. It’s unbelievable he failed to do that. It is what a big chunk of our party needed to hear from him. He didn’t do it tonight. "
Posted by:Besoeker

#15  I remember this headline from one short year ago

Finland: Government Collapses Over Universal Health Care Costs, #Bernie2020 Hardest Hit
Posted by: Beavis   2020-02-26 12:00  

#14  The nordic social democratic countries have low expenditures for defense which allows them a certain advantage.

But even with that they have high Value Added Taxes, typically 25% and, on top of that, duties of about 10%. And the VAT and duty tax are REGRESSIVE.
Posted by: lord garth   2020-02-26 11:45  

#13  Bernie has been fairly consistent in his red-leaning beliefs (the older meaning of red).
Posted by: JohnQC   2020-02-26 10:50  

#12  Statistically speaking-
If the rich and powerful kill or chase off 1/4 of the population:
Life expectancy increases.
Fewer people live in poverty.

But let's talk Chinese prisons; or communist prisons in general:
There may not be very many people in prison at any one time, but that does not mean that people are not going to prison. It means people do not get out of prison alive.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2020-02-26 10:33  

#11  Sen. Bernie Sanders in 2011 promoted an editorial arguing that “the American dream is more apt to be realized” in Venezuela than in the U.S."
Posted by: Lex   2020-02-26 10:31  

#10  * Most US state pension funds are way under water
Posted by: Lex   2020-02-26 10:07  

#9  #4 those [Dem-Soc] places happen to be 98% white and with a Lutheran imbued cultureYou know Martin Luther who rebel against the corruption of the church. So, yeah, get back to 98% white with an utter intolerance of social-political corruption and we can talk.

Not to mention a Northern Protestant ethos of saving, frugality and pay-as-you-go. Countries like Holland and Sweden fully fund their pensions, by law, and tax themselves accordingly.

We're so far from that ethos it's absurd. This country can't even halt the complete looting of the public purse by its policemen and public officials. Most US states are 20%, 30% or even 40% underwater.

Socialism can only work when everyone shares the ethos of hard work, frugality and common provision that defines a tiny handful of small communities at odd points in history. The Puritans had it, and so did the Pioneers, but other than them we haven't seen that ethos in this country in the last 200+ years.
Posted by: Lex   2020-02-26 10:06  

#8  Denmark is not a socialist country. They're just heavily taxed.
Posted by: Warthog   2020-02-26 09:59  

#7  There’s no reason to do a big retrospective, nostalgia, scream fest about authoritarian regimes from the 70s.

Of course there is a reason, if you're Bernie Sanders: this nonsense is what the guy lives for.

He's a bum. He postures and gestures, he talks and waves his arms around-- and actually does nothing. He's been doing nothing for nearly fifty years. He didn't have a job before he barely win a mayors race in a northern redneck-hippie village.

Sanders is like one of those shitty little lefty street characters hanging around a college campus, ranting and shucking and jiving for handouts from amused college kids year after year after year.
Posted by: Lex   2020-02-26 09:57  

#6  Heard nothing about Denmark building their wall, with a moat full of jormungandr.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2020-02-26 08:35  

#5  It’s the stuff in Northern Europe that’s working for normal people.

I wish I had a buck, or even a sheckel, for every article I've seen how Scandinavian socialism doesn't work.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-02-26 06:30  

#4  Gee Van, those places happen to be 98% white and with a Lutheran imbued culture. You know Martin Luther who rebel against the corruption of the church. So, yeah, get back to 98% white with an utter intolerance of social-political corruption and we can talk. Not going to happen.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2020-02-26 06:26  

#3  Van Jones is an avowed communist to the left of Obama. His advice hasn't changed much over the years: lie, lie, lie to the rubes.
Posted by: Count Galeazzo Untervehr7098   2020-02-26 03:49  

#2  A gaffe is when a politician accidentally tells the truth.
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2020-02-26 02:37  

#1  Once again Van Jones is one of the voices of reason in the Democratic Party. That's been happening a lot lately. And he's not exactly what you would call a moderate, either.
Posted by: Secret Master   2020-02-26 02:29  

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