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Pakistanis Will Outdo Indians in Showing Love for Us, If Only Trump Stays Hopeful and Visits
2020-03-01
[The Print] President Donald Trump’s visit to India marks the culmination of the process of transforming India’s relations with the United States into what then-President Barack Obama described as ‘the defining partnership of the twenty-first century.’

The process began two decades ago, but it needed the latest ‘love fest’, as some described the Trump trip, to overcome several psychological barriers created by earlier encounters.

India’s adulation for Trump in February 2020 was in stark contrast with the reservations encountered during the December 1959 journey of Dwight Eisenhower, the first US president to visit the subcontinent officially.

THE EISENHOWER VISIT
Although hundreds of thousands of Indians turned out for Eisenhower’s public address in the Ramlila Maidan in Delhi, India was less than enthused by then-burgeoning US alliance with Pakistan.

Eisenhower travelled to Pakistan, Afghanistan, and India though he wrote in his memoirs that India was the magnet that drew him to the region.

At that time, India’s ties with China had begun to deteriorate, and nonalignment notwithstanding, India had worked with the Americans to support the Tibetan revolt led by the Dalai Lama’s supporters.

By visiting both countries on the same trip, Eisenhower sought to build bridges between India and Pakistan. He hoped that he could persuade both countries to become America’s partners in containing communism.
Posted by:Herb McCoy

#12  "A Muslim speaks, a cobra hisses - what's the difference?" S. M. Stirling Peshawar Lancers
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-03-01 16:18  

#11  So, a word storm with little information other than erb announcing he doesn't source his content. We knew that he was a flamer.
Posted by: Skidmark   2020-03-01 11:57  

#10  Gee... thanks. And point conceded, HM.

'Hussie Haplobo' is a hoot.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-03-01 08:46  

#9  "We" already know?

Maybe YOU know. The rest of us don't. I have no freaking idea who Hussie Habloopo is and I'm not in the habit of doing biographies of the authors of every article I share. Who does that?

Maybe you do, but that's because you're a subject matter expert. And experts are supposed to know enough to understand that they are experts, and that everyone else isn't. It's like a professional baseball player: he knows every AAA farm team and which pro team they connect to, but he's aware that nobody else does and doesn't expect his audience to know.

Seriously, you think everyone keeps track of writers and the publications they write for? Hey, quick question: did you think we all knew the information you wrote down in comment #2?

If so, why did you even write it?
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2020-03-01 08:33  

#8  Shit. ^ Imagine a question mark at the end o' that, thank you.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-03-01 07:12  

#7  but people can expose themselves to a variety of viewpoints

You misunderstand. It's not that we're shy of exposing ourselves. Here â–º

It's just that we already know what the 'variety of viewpoints' is. And a writer like Hussain Haqqani is an especially known quantity. You're totally not Haqqani. You're our beloved basement strategist; so what's wrong with a little critique ?

I'm all for having an open mind, but so open that the wind blows through with a desolate, mournful sound.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-03-01 07:10  

#6  Unlike some of the posters here, I don't have a one-track mind and just because I post an article doesn't mean I am 100% on board with the author's arguments. I know this may be hard to understand, but people can expose themselves to a variety of viewpoints. It's educational to see what others are saying.

But I get it, some people like a safe space where their opinions aren't challenged. Perhaps a a room with coloring books, Play-Doh, and other comforts?
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2020-03-01 06:25  

#5  Huh.
I thought Herb wanted us to withdraw home behind high walls, turn swords into ploughshares, and no foreign entanglements? I can't keep up on the preferred troll meme of the day.

Fuck the duplicitous Pakis who can't stop polio, jihadi bombings, but pretend to play The Great Gameâ„¢
Posted by: Frank G   2020-03-01 06:16  

#4  Ref #2: But what he can bet on is that every dollar spent in Pakistain, every gesture shown to them will be ultimately used to the detriment of America and your allies.

A very safe bet. Very safe.
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-03-01 02:56  

#3  Our foreign & war policy is captive to fearful little men who worship little dolls of valiant wargods

".... who are but weasels, fighting in a hole..."
-Yeats
Posted by: Lex   2020-03-01 01:56  

#2  Article by Hussain Haqqani, former Ambassador of Islamic Republic of the 'Stain. Tragically, the magazine 'ThePrint' is based in India itself. A purely islamo-commie propaganda factory.

The Indian military brass is conveniently dormant. Our foreign & war policy is captive to fearful little men who worship little dolls of valiant wargods, but shudder at having to make the actual fucking call. The adulation in the common Indian for an anti-muslim Trump arises from the much publicized bromance with their deified Prime Minister. The Indian government will only protect its own very narrow interests, they don't even have to be the Indian peoples' interests !

I wouldn't advise Trump betting on actual Indian support in any major endeavour in Asia; simply because the leaders don't amount to much beyond PR and posturing.

But what he can bet on is that every dollar spent in Pakistain, every gesture shown to them will be ultimately used to the detriment of America and your allies. Although it's shown great initiative toward fulfilling America's immediate objectives, because it didn't hurt themselves much, the 'Stain is ultimately pure evil. It gives the impression of being an unstable, weak State but the foreign policy, the military and clandestine capabilities of the 'Stain are insidiously far-reaching. And they've been able to proliferate agencies of control and manipulation in almost every western legislature and constituency, thanks only to the largesse of the suicidal west. Even Qatar doesn't send as much aid as the world bank, the IMF, the US. It never reaches the common people, nor is a single tango put down by Paki forces. Just where do the billions go ? This resource pool gathered in the name of aid is used to buy influence, infiltrate authorities and judiciaries, recruit and finance sleeper cells - the business of international terrorism.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-03-01 01:18  

#1  Ike?!
Really??
How pathetic.

Clue for youze: Stop playing both sides, and then maybe we'll have something to talk about. Until then, f--- off
Posted by: Lex   2020-03-01 00:53  

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