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US and China WAR May be Inevitable, As Economy Collapses And Democrats And GOP Fight, War Approaches (video)
2020-04-21
[What A Finger] US and China WAR May be Inevitable, As Economy Collapses And Democrats And GOP Fight, War Approaches. The Thucydides Trap says that whenever a rising power moves to displace the existing superpower war is inevitable. 5 years ago The Atlantic wrote that not only was war with the US and China likely it was way more likely than anyone realized. They wrote that something could happen that will cause a cascade affect resulting in total war. And now many people are bullish on war. A series of military confrontations, China’s attempts to cause us harm during the crisis, the collapse of crude oil prices, and the economic collapse have put the world in the most dangerous position it has been in yet. Nuclear weapons stand at the ready and no one is willing to back down. As more people in the US, not just Trump but now Democrats and joe Biden, move to blame China it seems that it is only a matter of time when full scare war breaks out. Or maybe it won’t, maybe this is just hype and media sensationalism, maybe the real war will be an information war.
Posted by:Besoeker

#16  China's a much more insidious threat than the USSR was
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-21 22:35  

#15  I suspect the research conducted at Wuhan will one day be seen as just as deadly (if not more) than the research conducted at Peenemünde during WWII.
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-04-21 16:49  

#14  49 Pan, typically a war between great powers requires one of that nations to see some kind of gain out of the thing. I don't see that here. China stepped on a rake and war won't undo that.

Lex, WW2 didn't get us out of the Depression. I believe that was a myth created by the left to justify the massive spending and control that elongated the Depression by years and years and which had to end at some point anyway.

I will admit that everyone else having destroyed their industrial base helped us dominate the world in the aftermath though.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-04-21 16:29  

#13  #3 Wasn't war with the Soviets also 'inevitable'?

No.

If you look at the last 230 years in Europe, the evidence is that a balanced bipolar system i.e. the US-USSR 1945-1990 balance of terror far more stable than either a multipolar and balanced international state system (1792-93, 1815-1902, 1919-38) OR a multipolar and unbalanced system (1793-1815, 1903-18, 1939-45).

It's insane to think that Chinese's rise to parity with US could possibly happen without war.

Ergo, China cannot be allowed to keep rising, let alone gain parity with us. We have to halt their rise and contain and construct them every way possible.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-21 16:20  

#12  #9, 10, 11 LOL

developing exigencies within the Han kingdom

Don't tease us like that, Dron.
Posted by: Matt   2020-04-21 16:04  

#11  What ? We did ? I must've been absent, B.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-04-21 15:55  

#10  I thought we had come to a gentleman's agreement regarding the pyramid ?
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-04-21 15:11  

#9  

"What ?! Now we'll go and bomb some poor mongoloid shits to give our economy a boost ?! Shame on us ! Here's a pyramid for you sick bastards !"



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Posted by: Dron66046   2020-04-21 15:07  

#8  ^ Uh Oh ! Now you've done it.

Herb in 3...2...1...
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-04-21 14:58  

#7  If we reach 30% unemployment then we'll be the ones who need a war. The Great Depression ended only because of WWII.

No other way that our economy could possibly recover absent a major war's extreme ramp-up in capacity utilization - oil especially, also manufacturing.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-21 14:54  

#6  
China cannot go to war. There are reports of developing exigencies within the Han kingdom that indicate their resolve may not be enough to even deploy beyond the Indian Ocean.

Even if they do, they'll never rise again. Everything they achieved (whatever the hell it was) will be lost if they take on America. They Chinese are very careful about who they fight. Their best bet was to weaken the US from afar through their proxies, something increasingly looking like it won't be happening for another 4 years.

I think, the best strategy they have now is to try to develop a vaccine, stealing others' research left and right; and hope that the Covid thingy hurts others more than it hurts them. They've obviously made insane amounts of money over the PPEs. But that's the end of the good luck run.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-04-21 14:48  

#5  RJ, War is waged across many aspects of a nation. Diplomatic wars, informational wars, military, and economic wars. If a nation has an element of power, it can be used as an element of war.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2020-04-21 14:38  

#4  I don't really see how economy collapsing equals war in the modern era. War for what? Markets, China already lost those. Raw Materials? China lost that as well. Taiwan is the only likely flashpoint and I just don't see it.

2020 is not 1914. The world is different and as a result the rationals for war are different.

Chinese are fools if they aren't buying up every barrel of oil they can right now while the prices are good. Beyond that it's just hot air for internal consumption.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-04-21 13:59  

#3  Wasn't war with the Soviets also 'inevitable'?
Posted by: Raj   2020-04-21 13:53  

#2  They'll have to do better than covid-19.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2020-04-21 12:56  

#1  The US and China war is escalating after China introduce bio weapons infecting the world.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2020-04-21 11:54  

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