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Fifth Column

How Black Lives Matter activists see the future of urban policing

2020-06-09

[NYPOST] This is the cop-free world that Black Lives Matter protesters are dreaming about.
Whatcha might call an Emma Goldman world.
Social workers and religious leaders would replace officers on the street — and there would be no crimes such as stealing because the community workers would do such a good job helping everyone, fueled by money redirected from local police departments, advocates claim.
Well, of course. Like they do with the children entrusted to their care from abusive families.
“Right now, cops don’t just respond to violent crimes; they make needless traffic stops,
Drunk drivers, the people who drive 70 mph in residential zones, that sort of thing. What are a few brats run over in the great scheme of things? There's more where they came from.
arrest petty drug users,
... and dealers and importers...
and engage in a wide range of ‘broken windows policing’ behaviors that only serve to keep more people under the thumb of the criminal-justice system,” reads the Web site for the Minneapolis community coalition MPD150.
Broken Windows policing has been shown empirically to work, but if empirical evidence contradicts theory, guess which one goes out the door.
The group — whose name refers to the Minneapolis Police Department and the organization’s “150 year performance review’’ of the cop agency in 2017 — has been calling for the MPD to be dismantled.
So let's put Minneapolis up as a test case and see how it works. I'm sure as hell not moving there. Let us know what the population is in five years, if there's anybody still there alive.
Its efforts gained massive momentum after Minneapolis resident George Floyd’s death May 25, when the 46-year-old black man died in a shocking police-brutality case involving a white cop and three other officers.

Posted by:Fred

#30 Build high walls around these cities and buy lots of popcorn and televise it

Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2020-06-09 16:44

#29 Anarchy is not extreme libertarianism, it is Anarchy.

Posted by: rjschwarz 2020-06-09 15:58

#28 #27 It's not mob rule, it's extreme libertarianism...

Glenn Reynolds could tell you all about when he's not busy abandoning his libertarian principles in the face of a health scare.

In fairness, he never dropped the "legal weed and buttsex" part of his worldview, so we must give him great credit for that.

Posted by: charger 2020-06-09 14:45

#27 It's not mob rule, it's extreme libertarianism...

Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-06-09 14:34

#26 If that happens, I suggest gangs stay IN their city, not venture into the countryside which might just take a shoot on sight attitude toward gold chaining wearing tattooed thugs.

Posted by: Silentbrick 2020-06-09 13:57

#25 The parallel universes some people live in. What will happen is that Minneapolis will become subdivided among various gangs and their "turf." You will be perfectly safe within one gang's turf, but I wouldn't recommend crossing any lines. If you have to go somewhere across gang lines, well, that becomes your problem.

Posted by: Tom 2020-06-09 13:44

#24 Epic video rant by black woman unable to loot cell phone store because it's guarded by 'Ayrabs'

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-06-09 13:18

#23 Unknown miscreants vandalised the statue of Mahatma Gandhi outside the Indian embassy in Washington DC with graffiti and spray paint

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-06-09 13:09

#22 A notice posted in the Flatbush neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York has attracted a great deal of attention on Facebook and Twitter.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-06-09 12:44

#21 His body, his rules. Who cares?

Although I have no first hand experience, I think it must be very difficult to hold a job if you are hooked on opioids or methamphetamine. Then, to feed your habit, you must resort to crime like passing counterfeit money. You might even sell the poison to children which is a particularly heinous crime. Not cool.

Posted by: Abu Uluque 2020-06-09 12:20

#20 ...engage in a wide range of ‘broken windows policing’ behaviors that only serve to keep more people under the thumb of the criminal-justice system...

Thankfully in the city where I live, there is no talk of defunding the police. So, if you break my window, I will call the cops and you will go to jail.

Broken windows are a sign of rot in a community. Whatever causes broken windows will cause other types of rot and more of it. If you do not deal with the causes, you end up with Detroit...or Minneapolis.

Posted by: Abu Uluque 2020-06-09 12:13

#19 I can promise you that no police will lead almost immediately to a return of citizen vigilance committees who will deliver on the spot Justice to criminals involving a rope or 12 gauge to the face. There will be no more endless appeals, lawyers or street cred from being in prison cause first offense will be death. You hurt someone's family when there is no police to turn to, I promise reason goes out the window.

Posted by: Silentbrick 2020-06-09 12:05

#18 *Police officers require Post Certification (Peace Officer Standards & Training) Commission (P.O.S.T.). The training of officers is extensive and ongoing and covers many things. There is a requirement of yearly training of at least 40 hours. Diversity training, emergency treatment, community policy, investigative techniques, evidence preservation, accident reconstruction, laws, crowd control, traffic management, disasters and many other things are covered.

*The knee-jerk reactions of the BLM activists probably did not consider such things.

*I definitely would not want some community-organizer activist type showing up at an accident scene or a crime scene or my house.

Posted by: JohnQC 2020-06-09 11:34

#17 There is a wave of left-wing craziness sweeping the land.

Posted by: JohnQC 2020-06-09 10:54

#16 Pfather Pfleger

Posted by: Frank G 2020-06-09 09:40

#15 Social workers and religious leaders would replace officers on the street

So, as I imagine this, there will be a squad car (or what would you call it? An empathy-mobile?) ready to roll at 2AM on the south side of Chicago with a social worker and a pastor in it. They get the call that there's an armed robbery in progress. They go there and (1) convince the victim to part with his property or (2) give money to the perp or (3) get shot themselves?

Posted by: Matt 2020-06-09 09:31

#14 #3 His body, his rules. Who cares?

Anybody who has to deal with 6 foot 4 inches "gentle giant" on meth with no cops around.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-06-09 09:27

#13 1. Get rid of cops.
2. Citizens arm themselves.
3. Block War!
4. Judges

Who knew Judge Dredd was so prophetic.

Posted by: rjschwarz 2020-06-09 09:23

#12 Point is (1) what he did before (and paid his debt to society) is not relevant but, most importantly, (2), how is taking drugs in and of itself "violent"? His body, his rules. Who cares?

Posted by: Clem 2020-06-09 07:18

#11 let me guess, when this fails, it will be because of 'systemic racism' AKA 'wreckers' and the solution will be to throw more money down the money hole.

Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 2020-06-09 06:47

#10 "one drug user". Hardly violent.

Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine.

Standing at six foot four inches (1.93m), Floyd was known to friends and family as a "gentle giant"

...But he could not escape the violence of Houston's underground scene, and was arrested several times for thefts and drug dealing. Local media said he was jailed in the early 2000s for armed burglary, serving four years.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-06-09 06:44

#9 /\ Thinking outside the box; could it have been an allergic reaction to the ink on the counterfeit bill ?

Posted by: Besoeker 2020-06-09 06:44

#8 ^...took at least 4 grown men to stop him from violently resisting...

Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Glomonter1294 2020-06-09 06:36

#7 @ #4 - "one drug user". Hardly violent.

Posted by: Clem 2020-06-09 06:16

#6 >Just as the man was using counterfeit bills to feed his drug habit,

You make it sound like he wasn't a dealer... He's got the dodgy currency, he's probably part of organised crime.

That doesn't mean that the cops who "arrested" him weren't either...

Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2020-06-09 05:19

#5 This is about money.
It is a bribe (a mordida).
It is not about justice.
Just as the man was using counterfeit bills to feed his drug habit, the social justice complainers want their share of the money to feed their own habits.
These social justice people do not care about crime or even shootings unless law abiding gun owners or the President can be blamed.
I like aggressive cops.
If only an aggressive cop would have been at the Parkland, Florida shooting, he would have taken the active shooter down before he could kill more school children, unlike the coward officer who waited outside the school while the shooting was going on.
But that is the kind of policing these guys like so they never blamed that do nothing officer.
If these greedy social justice people have their way vulnerable school children will be at greater risk in the future.

Posted by: boomerc 2020-06-09 05:02

#4 The radical left has abandoned all 669,000 law enforcement officers over the of death of one drug user.

Posted by: Jogum Prince of the Hemps1931 2020-06-09 03:55

#3 Many 'Ufa Simba' will be necessary to guard the royal leadership and dispense with the unruly.

*The Ufa Simba were the royal guards that protected King Shaka of the vast Zulu Nation of the southern region of the continent of Africa.

Posted by: Besoeker 2020-06-09 02:14

#2 Why not go the whole hog and demand independence like Native American Nations?

Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2020-06-09 02:04

#1 Still, a small “specialized class of public servants” to fight crime might be necessary to fight some crime that slips through the cracks, they acknowledge.

And of course protect the elite...

Posted by: CrazyFool 2020-06-09 01:55

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