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| 2020-10-04 |
| Not wanting to add to any COVID-pandemic-fear-pr*n, but so we all have eyes wide open . . . Why did Trump get infected with such a serious strain of the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2), at such a critical juncture in his re-election efforts? Recent research indicates that the virulence of the COVID-19 virus (and, as a result, COVID-related mortality) has been declining (in the currently identified strains of virus that descended from the original version of the SARS-CoV-2 virus as then identified). Apparently, the original versions of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that were floating around in January - March 2020 contained an ORF8 (viral genetic code sequence) that allows the virus to evade the body's immune system. An ORF8-induced immunological evasion by the COVID-19 virus invites concern that currently "asymptomatic" people who are COVID-19 positive may (like what occurred with the HIV & AIDS epidemic) get really sick over time, and (as regards President Trump) raise extreme caution over what seems to be a "mild" case of the disease. That symptoms of COVID-19 appear absent or mild is not necessarily a good sign, since (with ORF8-induced immunological evasion) the virus wrecks havoc without the body putting up much of an alarm. In its more deadly forms, the COVID-19 virus drastically impacts every organ system, and the body's vasculature. Blood clots have been found in "almost every organ" during autopsies on COVID-19 patients. WHDH 7News - Boston (July 10, 2020), https://whdh.com/news/pathologist-found-blood-clots-in-almost-every-organ-during-autopsies-on-covid-19-patients/. For those susceptible (due to genetics, preconditions, or the viral strain contracted), COVID-19 disseminates throughout all organ systems of the body, wrecking widespread apoptosis, necrosis, thrombosis and inflammatory carnage. People die when their viral load is high, and the SARS-CoV-2 infection remains unchecked. Getting infected with a SARS-CoV-2 variant that includes a robust ORF8 in its viral genome is likely a death sentence, if left unchecked. If Trump is sick with an ORF8-robust version of the COVID-19 virus, it must be kept in mind that this is a murderous virus that (unlike most other viruses) actually infects T-cells, macrophages, and dendritic cells and spreads its own misleading form of cytokines as camouflage. Hopefully, President Trump will be treated with T-cell boosting support, receive interferon (if needed), and be provided with other immune stimulating and regulatory factors, as well as being given therapeutics to reduce bradykinin flooding, to prevent clotting, and to target the viral life cycle to eliminate the viremia. That's what's needed to survive if you're susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 due to genetics, precondition, or the particular viral strain contracted. The most effective treatment in serious cases will likely be a "cocktail" of complimentary therapeutics. As an aside, because the more ways the virus is attacked the better are the chances of survival and good recovery, here is some unsolicited journal article information — which may help those who've gotten sick apart from and/or in addition to the benefit of using things like Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, Vitamin D, and antibiotics (to ward off secondary infection): • Block host cell reception and strip off the protective envelope coating of the virus (without cytotoxcity at even 10x regular dosing). See Coppola & Mondola, Potential Unconventional Medicines for the Treatment of SARS-CoV-2, 70(6) Drug Res 286 (2020) ~ https://doi.org/10.1055/a-1170-4624. Clinical trials on Ivermectin are coming out positive at even standard dosing. Please also note: orange peels are full of hesperidin (23 Biomed. Chromatogr. 239-249 (2009) ~ http://doi.org/10.1002/bmc.1090 A caveat: Ivermectin cannot cross the blood-brain barrier, although SARS-CoV-2 certainly does. In those cases, something like Nitazoxanide would be a good idea to do the sorts of things Ivermectin can, but within the CNS. Side note: it’s interesting how Romark has made sure no generic of Nitazoxanide is available anymore anywhere in the U.S., and the brandname runs about $4,000 per COVID-19 treatment course. What a coincidence! It’s almost like the good fortune of Gilead in obtaining a patent on Remdesivir last year. One would like to think that BigPharm and the CCP China would not initiate a scheme to benefit themselves, but BigPharma has long had no reputation for ethics, and CCP China dabbles in unrestricted warfare concepts. See https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA509132. Some great, safe therapeutics exist and should be made widely available to those who are COVID-19 positive. At the start of this plague many of those infected with what appeared to be the original form of SARS-CoV-2 died. Now, in general, the virus (as descended from the earlier versions) is only killing about 1% of those infected. The subsequent strains of the COVID-19 virus tend to lose the ORF8 viral genome material over successive generations; so, would not be expected to be as virulent as the virus appeared to be at first blush. However, Trump seems to have contracted an infection that's acting like the virus infecting him still has the original ORF8 viral genetic code (which allows the virus to evade the body's immune system, which could be why he didn't show much of a fever, headaches, etc.). CCP Chinese PR has called his illness "payback." If Trump contracted a virulent form of the COVID-19 virus with a beefy ORF8, that kind of occurrence is not expected as a matter of course — not at this point in the epidemiological cycle. Yet, 1) what If COVID was engineered (with multiple versions — i.e., different strains of the COVID-19 virus were dispersed from the start)? 2) and, what If COVID (with its phenomenal transmissibility and seemingly off and on lethality — a lethality dependent on which strain of the virus is in play) works as designed? 3) and, what If COVID has long-term consequences as it persists and disseminates throughout body systems — going past the blood-brain barrier to infect the CNS? 4) What's the end-goal? Couldn't an ORF8 robust strain of the COVID-19 virus be used for targeted hits (e.g., perhaps to take out people like Herman Cain), while the other (less lethal) versions of the virus provide "cover" and plausible deniability — a smokescreen? Additionally, if the COVID-19 Frankenvirus was released with multiple versions (and there are good reasons to believe the COVID-19 virus has less than natural beginnings; see, e.g., https://www.zerohedge.com/health/what-expanse-tells-us-about-covid-19-pandemic-and-gain-function-research), then the populace will experience greatly divergent opinions about viral lethality. In turn, such extreme disparity in experience and outcome necessarily sows division. And, that societal disquietude is the stuff civil unrest feeds upon, and will only dissipate with effective treatment and elimination of this scourge. The "prelude to revolutionary conditions" could just be coincidence, but (again) the CCP China dalliance with unrestricted warfare concepts is not comforting. See https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA509132. Moreover, regardless of the origin of the COVID-19 virus, its transmissibility is truly horrifying (with or without ORF8 enhancement). The SARS-CoV-2 viral loads are unbelievable (with commensurate viral shedding) and transmissibility is extreme regardless of precautions — eventually everyone will be exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and contract some form of COVID-19. At that rate of spread (and giving COVID-19 even a moderately low mortality rate of just 1%), that's (conservatively) about 3 million dead Americans. Hopefully, good therapeutics will stop this virus from being as deadly as it currently presents, and will put it back in the category of the other, non-novel, coronaviruses. CCP China would have no worries about blowback, because the descendants of the ORF8 beefy SARS-CoV-2 lose the ORF8 viral genome and become similar to the common cold. Almost as if it were planned . . . For the U.S., taken as a whole, for those who have a weakness (e.g., preexisting condition), particular host genetic susceptibility, or have picked up a virulent strain of the coronavirus, THE COVID-19 VIRUS CAN QUICKLY BECOME DEADLY — i.e., it won't stop until it has killed, or the virus has been eliminated. While it seems that some 90% (or more) of the population will not be in any real danger from this Frankenvirus, about 10% (or somewhat less) face a huge risk of death or other adverse outcomes (through a host of viral consequences) without prompt elimination of the virus. If targeted with an ORF8 robust strain of SARS-CoV-2, Trump is in grave danger. The research shows peaks in death from COVID-19 at around 14 days post acute emergent symptoms, and then again at about 28 days thereafter (the timeframe during which Herman Cain died, after seeming to show great improvement). See Qiurong Ruan, et al., Clinical predictors of mortality due to COVID-19 based on an analysis of data of 150 patients from Wuhan, China, Intensive Care Med (March 3, 2020) ~ https://doi.org/10.1007/s00134-020-05991-x. See also, e.g., Pingzheng Mo, et al., Clinical characteristics of refractory COVID-19 pneumonia in Wuhan, Clinical Infectious Diseases (March 16, 2020) ~ https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciaa270 (". . . median hospital stay of patients with COVID-19 pneumonia was 10 days. . . . . After 10 days or longer treatment, some patients had an exacerbation in clinical symptoms . . ."). We should not let our guards down. EXTREME VIGILANCE IS NEEDED OVER THE NEXT MONTH. |
| Posted by:cingold |
| #15 Oh my goodness — I’m glad you are well enough to visit here and post, dear cingold. My love to you all, and my hope that you will be left with no major long term impacts in either mind or body. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2020-10-04 23:00 |
| #14 Thanks, TW. It’s kind of personal for me. I, Ex-lib, and our son have all had long-haul COVID since March. I’ve had to learn at least some immunology just to keep us out of the hospital—LOL. It’s been a real trip. |
| Posted by: cingold 2020-10-04 22:51 |
| #13 Much to think about, cingold. Thank you. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2020-10-04 21:20 |
| #12 I really don't think we can be too hard on the politicians and industrialists who have helped China along. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-10-04 19:26 |
| #11 China has been poisoning the world for decades. It's just coming into focus now... |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-10-04 19:22 |
#10 Giuliani, today:The country that attacked us, China. And they attacked us with this, believe me . . . I hold them responsible for what happened to my president the day before yesterday and everybody else. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/giuliani-i-hold-china-responsible-what-happened-trump |
| Posted by: cingold 2020-10-04 19:19 |
| #9 For those who might say there is no way that the United States could have been attacked by CCP China with a biological weapon, look at https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html. Of the over 1 million COVID caused deaths in the world, the United States has sustained over 20% of those deaths, 209,787. But, the United States is less than 5% of the world’s population. So we have been hit more than 4x times harder than would be otherwise expected, unless our country was targeted with a bioweapon. Without our excellent medical system and Trump’s immediate and prescient action, our country would have been hit even harder. |
| Posted by: cingold 2020-10-04 19:11 |
| #8 End this lockdown. Make America Normal Again |
| Posted by: Captain America 2020-10-04 18:48 |
| #7 As expected, stock futures moving higher. |
| Posted by: Clem 2020-10-04 18:34 |
| #6 He's out. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2020-10-04 18:14 |
| #5 Gum would want him tasered, or put down. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2020-10-04 18:01 |
| #4 My best guess is he was only on a low dose prophylactic course of HCQ, and got hit anyway. They probably aren’t boosting HCQ as a treatment because the side effect risk of HCQ increases with dosage, and because he was on HCQ and got hit anyway — so, what he contracted might be a HCQ resistant strain of the virus. |
| Posted by: cingold 2020-10-04 17:44 |
| #3 Did Trump quit taking HCQ, or is this just a case "the flu"? |
| Posted by: Clem 2020-10-04 17:20 |
| #2 Awesome, but it's not like I didn't try hard to put it in the wrong place. LOL. Apparently, it was a bit too long for "a comment." |
| Posted by: cingold 2020-10-04 16:24 |
| #1 Thanks, Cingold, and proper placement |
| Posted by: Frank G 2020-10-04 16:20 |