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US Army uniform 'gives men a free pass to ogle and touch women's breasts' after rank insignia was moved from collar to middle of soldiers' chest, female officer says
2021-04-21
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • US Army Lt. Col. Rachael Hoagland is a student at the US Army War College

  • Hoagland wants Army to relocate rank insignia on soldiers' combat uniforms

  • Before 2004, rank insignia was pinned to the collars of soldiers' uniforms

  • Army changed uniforms to enable troops to display rank while wearing armor

  • The change meant that rank insignia would be displayed in middle of the chest

  • Relocated rank insignia means having to look down to see female's rank

  • Hoagland said it creates awkward dynamic during rank promotion ceremony

  • Male officers often ask female soldiers 'May I touch you?' during ceremony
Posted by:Skidmark

#25  Fine. All rank will now be tattooed on their forehead. If it changes, you get another tattoo. Design will have to change so rank can be added. Woe unto he who gets demoted cause that belt sander taking it off is going sting a bit.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2021-04-21 21:11  

#24  "We're all out of 0-3 bars. Mind if I build a set with these O-2's?"
Posted by: Anomalous Sources   2021-04-21 20:29  

#23  Please, nobody tell this poor REMF officer about how real NCOs used to get their rank "Pinned" - she might not want collar or soulder rank back. Airborne (blood) wings usually administered the same way.

Be glad she's not a Marine or she'd be demanding sanitary pads be put on the blood stripe on the trousers.
Posted by: These Forkbeard7574   2021-04-21 17:30  

#22  We were promised Private Vasquez.

What we got is a remake of In The Army Now starring The Lady Ghostbusters.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2021-04-21 16:39  

#21  This reminds me of Star Trek. Every new show/movie seemed to need some kind of uniform change. Some major, some minor.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2021-04-21 14:24  

#20  From the photos at the link, it looks like to get promoted, you get the new rank pinned on your ... sternum.
Posted by: Bobby   2021-04-21 14:21  

#19  Umm that looked bad. Lets also say that for the males, some of the fat HQ deskbound looked like a beachball with a rubberband around the middle, so it goes on both.
Posted by: These Forkbeard7574   2021-04-21 14:14  

#18  Not saying the Female soldiers I served with were anything other than competent and good soldiers - they were. But the deskbound HQ types when running their PT uniforms...

When viewed from behind they looked like 2 bulldogs fighting in a duffelbag.
Posted by: These Forkbeard7574   2021-04-21 14:14  

#17  I didn't think the uniforms gave guys and women anything to 'ogle'.

Oh, I still remember some PT runs in the summer heat at Bragg.
Posted by: Skidmark   2021-04-21 13:48  

#16  I didn't think the uniforms gave guys and women anything to 'ogle'.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2021-04-21 12:31  

#15  Hmmm maybe it's cause I'm USAF, but I've never seen a promotion ceremony in OPCs, always dress uniform...
Posted by: Lemuel Gray4629   2021-04-21 12:07  

#14  Seriously, she needs to Man-up if she is going to be a senior combat leader? Hyper-sensitivity isn't the mark of a leader trained in the application of extreme violence on an industrial scale.
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2021-04-21 11:33  

#13  Let me guess; doesn't fold right either.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2021-04-21 11:29  

#12  Engaging Snark . Separate the military into two branches . Biological Males and Biological Females. If a biological male wants to join the Biological Female Branch it will have to get its dangly bits removed at its own cost. The military will not supply the drugs needed to keep it stable. Snark/Off.
Posted by: Phinetch Wherese4624   2021-04-21 10:18  

#11  Why not just have the rank on the armor on the chest and on the collar when not in armor?

Sorry, non-military thinking. I'll do some push ups now.
Posted by: DarthVader   2021-04-21 09:00  

#10  ^😎
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-04-21 07:16  

#9  Soon, they'll have even pronouns etched into the BDUs. Then the enemy can offend them into overreacting.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-04-21 04:11  

#8  OK. I get it. But, what I meant was "why make life easy for enemy snipers?" (since armor is intended for combat).
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-04-21 04:08  

#7  ^ /sarc, Grom. It was obviously some REMFs idea to fiddle with things already working fine. A whole uni change, when just a patch or etching would do. Usually, they change around stuff to accommodate new contracts for gear and uniforms. I don't know what it's like over there, but I'll bet it's not much different. Here, they use Powerpoint for that.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-04-21 04:04  

#6  ^Sorry? Not understand.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-04-21 03:58  

#5  ^ The Powerpoint used the new 'insert animations' feature. Totally slick.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-04-21 03:53  

#4  Army changed uniforms to enable troops to display rank while wearing armor

Why?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-04-21 01:28  

#3  Madness. This is just a few degrees away from:

'Breasts degrade wimmin's integrity and prospects because they are used to objectify and uhh... ogle them into submission. Henceforth, surgical removal of breasts is mandatory for entry.'
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-04-21 00:54  

#2  All breasts are equal, but some are more equal than others.

As for the ogling, the US is party to some damn UN treaty that grants citizens the right to radio reception. Since both radio and light are forms of electromagnetic radiation, we therefore have the right to receive light waves, or in the common parlance, to ogle.
Posted by: SteveS   2021-04-21 00:42  

#1  Men and woman are biologically the same these days so what difference does it make?
Posted by: rjschwarz   2021-04-21 00:11  

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