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Is Natural Immunity More Effective Than the COVID Shot?
2021-08-19
[TruthBasedMedia] The reason natural immunity is superior to vaccine-induced immunity is because viruses contain five different proteins. The COVID shot induces antibodies against just one of those proteins, the spike protein, and no T cell immunity. When you’re infected with the whole virus, you develop antibodies against all parts of the virus, plus memory T cells.

This also means natural immunity offers better protection against variants, as it recognizes several parts of the virus. If there are significant alternations to the spike protein, as with the Delta variant, vaccine-induced immunity can be evaded. Not so with natural immunity, as the other proteins are still recognized and attacked.

Not only that but the COVID jabs actually actively promote the production of variants for which they provide virtually no protection at all, while those with natural immunity do not cause variants and are nearly universally protected against them.

If we are to depend on vaccine-induced immunity, as public health officials are urging us to do, we’ll end up on a never-ending booster treadmill. Boosters will absolutely be necessary, as the shot offers such narrow protection against a single protein of the virus. Already, Moderna has publicly stated that the need for additional boosters is expected.
We get new flu shots every year. Some years they work better than others, but none are perfect.
Posted by:Angstrom

#23  #6^^^^ Skidmark
“ Israel will be delivered once and for all”…
Posted by: Omolutch Protector of the French5741   2021-08-19 18:47  

#22  Keep pushing
and this could happen
just like the nut in WDC Today
Posted by: Fleasing Jones4106   2021-08-19 16:36  

#21  The non vaxed will be denied medical care.

Interesting question. What is the better choice for overall health? Get the vaccine, or give up access to what we call healthcare? Off the cuff I'd think most would be better off without the vaccine until their 60's. At some point you'll want chemo or a stent. Until then you are better off with COVID.
Posted by: Angstrom   2021-08-19 16:21  

#20  PUBLISHED TODAY AUGUST 19,2021

Lab founder shows damage COVID jab’s spike protein inflicts on vital organs
'I kind of like my brain cells to be where they are and not be blown apart.'
Posted by: Thruth B. Hayes3444   2021-08-19 15:40  

#19  I know more and more people who were fully vaccinated or previously infected, and even have low co-morbidities and very modest group exposure, who are being hospitalized with severe covid now.
Posted by: Glenmore   2021-08-19 15:32  

#18  I have always wondered what would happen with increased population. As Obama said this is the new normal. We have now in a steady decline in people skills. The phone and television have lead the way. Right and wrong no longer matter. We have become expendable numbers. The herd is actively being culled. Increasingly people are refusing to be managed. All business activity will decline as many are forced out of work. The non vaxed will be denied medical care. The pressure cooker has no relief valve. The show must go on down, and further down. No bottom to be seen as yet.
Posted by: Dale   2021-08-19 15:28  

#17  
Middle Ground

Posted by: Glaviper Glinemble8088   2021-08-19 13:52  

#16  Amen to that.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-08-19 13:45  

#15  I real hate seeing it divide the good folks here at the burg. we need to revisit the idea of "the middle ground"
Posted by: 746   2021-08-19 13:41  

#14  Yes.

What is alarming, is the percentage of people who are infected with the "Get in Children's Faces and Scream Them Into Submission!"

You got an entire generation jumpier than field mice on plow day, and y'all roostering around like you did something noble.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2021-08-19 13:28  

#13  the virus is doing just what its creators want, even here at the "burg. That is to divide people. And its working quite well, look at the little spats that happen here...

it's a nearly benign sickness , the propaganda associated with it is what is dividing people
Posted by: 746   2021-08-19 13:19  

#12  Left unstated and unconsidered is the duration of natural immunity to COVID-19. Natural immunity to other coronaviruses seems rather short, and this explains why most of us get infected by similar coronaviruses over and over again.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843   2021-08-19 12:39  

#11  The Science is c-19 is with us forever. There will be no cure.

That's a pretty glum way of looking at anything, Unvaxed. The eggheads won't give up like that and thank heaven for it.

Well, I wish you to be safe so that's alright.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-08-19 11:43  

#10  The Science is c-19 is with us forever. There will be no cure.

Group thinkers (r) and apologizers (Drone) can write all they want, it won't change anything.

(r) has wished financial ruin and death upon first the Unmasked and now the Unvaxed. He has transferred his vile and hate towards Palestinians to white Americans. To write an "Aww shucks give the guy a break" comment indicates Drone willful ignorance of the filth (r) has written on this site.
To you both, I wish upon you what you wish upon us.
Keep taking your boosters suckers.
Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed   2021-08-19 11:30  

#9  IF we had immediately started work on a better vaccine instead of sticking to the crummy emergency one and hoping it’ll work better the third time around....
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2021-08-19 10:51  

#8  Not my comment.

The flu virus, like HIV, notoriously mutates. So you are getting a shot for a *different* flu each year. The COVID jab loses effectiveness against the *same* SARS-COV-2 virus.
Posted by: Angstrom   2021-08-19 10:36  

#7  Variants vs. vaccines - is the COVID-19 race ever going to end? - analysis
Posted by: Skidmark   2021-08-19 09:41  

#6  Israel now requires everyone over the age of THREE to show proof of Covid vaccination or a negative test before being let into restaurants and other indoor spaces - with country now 'at war' with Delta variant
Posted by: Skidmark   2021-08-19 09:29  

#5  Trailing wife needs to send Raj and Grom to their rooms
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom    2021-08-19 07:45  

#4  Suggested link for the g(r)omster, where he can learn more about his beloved Covid!
Posted by: Raj   2021-08-19 02:18  

#3  Covid - even if it don't kills one - can bring permanent impairments (google "long covid"). So, by all means seek natural immunity.

p.s. Long Covid doesn't explain raj - IMO he was born this way.

pp.s. My advice to the "five protein" genius who wrote the article, google "affinity maturation".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB   2021-08-19 01:50  

#2  Pardon my layman ignorance, but isn't natural immunity a nuance of evolution itself? So it arrives concurrently with yet developing diseases and contends with evolving viruses. At its own rate.

What does one do to achieve immunity for something a)exceedingly virulent, (b)deliberately constructed to (c)infect billions suddenly? One surely develops vaccines. As I understand it, this involves exposure in a controlled manner to the very thing. Again, excuse my ignorance if this is not so.

Does one make mistakes because the evil sons of whores have had decades to create their bioweapon and we have only months to find cures and engineer an induced immunity? Sure. I suppose one minimizes the risks to the population too, because without the population... there is no point in lording it over our States, and no one left to lord over.

Is natural immunity more effective than a shot? Definitely. Have you time to evolve it fast enough to fight the rapidly unfolding CoV package of chaos? I think not. One cannot discount the profit motivations of big pharma and the callousness of governments, not to mention the compulsion to control and coerce. Which is where all this mistrust is generated. I think it would be a good idea to examine the science, and not the statistics when forming our opinions. One simply cannot trust the numbers and graphs in a time when more people show up to elect a man than are living in a district. Gromgoru may be casually dismissive of people he thinks are intellectually inferior, an irritating quality to some, but one thing about him he always points to the science of the thing. Of course I am not in favor of boots on the neck immunization or adding the cancel culture to vaccine protocols, but the public should debate and ascertain for themselves, sans fear mongering and blind anti-establishment rhetoric.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-08-19 00:57  

#1  Let's hear it from the site's resident asshole - g(r)om, take it away!
Posted by: Raj   2021-08-19 00:11  

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