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-Land of the Free
Texas Gov. Abbott BANS all vaccine mandates, including for private entities, insisting jab is 'effective,' but must be 'voluntary'
2021-10-12
[RT] I got my jabs back in February, two of them, no trouble, no side effects. If they were there, I'd probably have had a hard time noticing, as I was in the rehab center trying to recover from the disease. I think the thing is that the vax's are generally but not 100% safe, and no one seems to be really one hunnert percent sure how the virus is spread. I think it's the phlogiston they use, if not the pickled newts, myself. You can pick what you want.

I don't think anyone who had it is in danger from the unvaccinated. We're immune. I don't think anyone who's been jabbed is in danger from them either, within the limits of the effectiveness of their jab.

I think the "voluntary" part is what's sticking in the national (and international) craw. We've reached the stage where we as a nation are feeling ornery. We're tired of would-be overlords. We'll take the stinking vaccine if we're convinced it won't cause a blood clot that will either kill us or blow out a frontal lobe or two and leave us duh--stoopid. Having recently admired the hinges on the Pearly Gates, I had no hesitation baring an arm.

Those who don't get the vaccine are a group in themselves. They will be a danger to each other, just like everyone was to everyone else before the vaccines started coming off the vaccination assembly line. It's just that the vulnerable portion of the population is smaller.

They'll be a shrinking group as they either decide to have the jabs or peg out.
Posted by:Fred

#14  One of the reasons the latest news about "alternate" treatments like the antihistamines, Z-Pacs and Aspirin disturb me is that five years ago they were the _STANDARD_ treatments for viral pneumonia.

And just like that, some task force no longer recommends baby aspirin to help prevent a heart attack or stroke.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2021-10-12 17:53  

#13  Neighbor who was dentist died of blood clots, another died on the respirator. A friend who had Parkinson’s died 4 days after shot. My wife and I exercise on average ~40 minutes a day. Age 77. It looks like they are trying to cull the herd.
Posted by: Da Cooky   2021-10-12 15:51  

#12  “If you want to be vaccinated, you must also bear the consequences"” Professor Dr. Arne Burkhardt (Pathologist) On September 20, 2021,“ after jab, resting heart rate dropped from 60 to 40. Two weeks later it started up and then got the second one, it dropped back to 40 for two weeks. ECG registered AFIB but is now back to normal. I have run pikes peak and was selected for Boston. Listen to what the dr. Has to say!
Posted by: Da Cooky   2021-10-12 15:44  

#11  Snowy Thing, what you are referring to is “olds “.
Posted by: trailing wife   2021-10-12 13:16  

#10  Snowy -- keep in mind "news" is filtered through the minds of journalists. These are people who were barely able to keep out of their university's school of education.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2021-10-12 12:43  

#9  I want to name the antihistames but they seem to trigger the spam filter worse than Frau Blucher.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2021-10-12 12:03  

#8  One of the reasons the latest news about "alternate" treatments like the antihistamines, Z-Pacs and Aspirin disturb me is that five years ago they were the _STANDARD_ treatments for viral pneumonia.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2021-10-12 12:01  

#7  Got the jabs because spouse asked me to. Now she's talking about the "booster", for me that ain't gonna happen. The original shots didn't bother me. I am still underwhelmed by the lack of signs of pandemic. Seriously, what is the difference between flu and Chinese croup. Just what the Doc puts on the paperwork.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2021-10-12 11:50  

#6  I've had both jabs, might have had the crud back in March 2020, nobody was testing then. But I don't believe anyone should be forced to do it. It's wrong on so many levels.

This isn't about the stupid wuhan flu, it's pavlov conditioning for the masses. "DO WHAT WE SAY OR YOU'LL BE SHAMED AND HOUNDED!"
Posted by: Silentbrick   2021-10-12 11:18  

#5  I've had the disease. Won't be getting the jab. If I get sick again I'll try Ivermectin. It has a long history and an excellent safety profile. The risk of anything bad happening in my age group is .02%. At those odds this thing has already taken way more of my time and freedom than I'm prepared to give.
Posted by: Angstrom   2021-10-12 10:54  

#4  Like AIDS, indeedFauxi's first debacle. .
Posted by: Patriot    2021-10-12 07:50  

#3  ..like AIDS, I don't get a 'scientific' community that refuses to identify those with natural immunity and investigate the who, why, what and how in seeking palliative solutions to disease.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2021-10-12 07:33  

#2  The shrinking set is those who neither got the vaccine nor the disease, and so have not built immunity either artificially or naturally, it seems to me.

In the end some people at one end of the bell curve will not build immunity regardless how many times they are jabbed — final daughter may be one of those, according to her immunologists, so she may end up getting immunoglobulin treatments prophylactically for the rest of her life as protection against everything— while those at the other end of the curve have such a strong immune response they won’t get sick from the thing no matter how much the virus evolves to stay ahead of acquired immunity. And some will react badly to the vaccine, whether through an imperfection in the vaccine or something innate in themselves, no matter how much subsequent versions of the vaccine are improved from the first first attempts. In the meantime, treatments to support the body and the immune response will continue to be added to the list (Vitamins C and D! Aspirin! Ivermectin! Hydroxychloroquine! Zinc!, etc.) so that catching the thing will be less deadly to those who do fall ill for whatever reason.

It’s the totalitarian demands that stick in my craw. This isn’t even a particularly American response — elsewhere around the world there have reportedly been huge marches against lockdowns and mandatory vaccines.
Posted by: trailing wife   2021-10-12 05:48  

#1  I got my jab last month. The last one laid me out for about a day.

Until that time I hadn't had a flu shot of any kind since 1991, when I got laid out by another flu shot.

Since that time I have been upright and above ground, so not much to complain about.

Getting everyone to abide by government imposed medical diktats in America is like eating oatmeal out of a colander.
Posted by: badanov   2021-10-12 05:05  

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