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Russia demands NATO leave eastern Europe, limit missile deployment
2021-12-18
[DW] Russia has released a series of security demands to NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis....
, including a veto on the alliance's expansion. It is calling for an immediate dialogue, but NATO members aren't likely to acquiesce to Moscow's wish list.

Russia on Friday released a series of demands to the United States and NATO if it is to restore relations.
Posted by:trailing wife

#3  Prob should invite NATO in.
That would stun and overwhelm all the players.
Likely take 10 years of planning to engage.
Posted by: Skidmark   2021-12-18 09:04  

#2  We lied to the Russians.

We humiliated Gorbachev and then Yeltsin, and plunged the Russian public into ten years of misery and chaos as their country was stolen from them by a kakocracy of bandits (sound familiar, mah fellow Americans?)

We should have the decency and good sense to grab this proposal and run with it. NATO is a useless burden for us and a drag on resources that ought to be deployed to the Pacific and to our southern border.

Ukraine should be a neutral and demilitarized border country as Austria or Finland were (provided that the Russian-speaking parts get real autonomy and independence from Kyiv).
Posted by: Merrick Ferret   2021-12-18 05:17  

#1  And why not? The Russians dissolved the Warsaw Pact and withdrew their troops just like they promised.

There is no way that admitting Ukraine to NATO is a good idea. It is literally a provocation to war. Who would like to have a big shooting war with a nuclear power? When the generals in charge are the same geniuses who couldn't beat Afghanistan even with $2 trillion and twenty years to get the job done? How much will this new war cost?
Posted by: Clulet Splat5443   2021-12-18 00:48  

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