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Russian milbloggers: military procedures cripple Russian artillery
2022-07-14
in a part of a much longer review of the military situation, the ISW relays opinion relating to a subject of discussion yesterday - why Russia is buying Iran UAWs.
[UnderstandingWar] ...Russian Telegram channel Rybar claimed on July 12 that Russian requests and approval for artillery fire pass through a convoluted chain of command, resulting in a delay of several hours to several days between Russian ground forces requesting artillery fire, Russian targeting, and conducting the actual strikes. Rybar claimed that Russian forces in Syria reduced the time between targeting and striking to under an hour.Rybar claimed that while the Russian need for more UAVs is clear and that Iranian UAVs helped achieve a target-to-fire time of 40 minutes in Syrian training grounds additional UAVs do not solve the problems of overcentralized Russian command and overreliance on artillery in Ukraine. Russian milblogger Voyennyi Osvedomitel; claimed that Russian forces had faced the same overcentralized command during the First Chechen War, wherein the inability of Russian ground forces to request artillery support without going through a chain of command inhibited responses to enemy offensive actions. Milblogger Yuzhnyi Veter claimed that Ukrainian artillery forces target-to-response time is under 40 seconds.

Posted by:Lord Garth

#3  One of the things that made the pre-pronoun American military an effective tactical force is that they pushed responsibility down. As Boyd demonstrated, whoever can run The Loop fastest wins.
Posted by: SteveS   2022-07-14 18:19  

#2  Steel Wind(1994): Colonel Georg Bruchmuller and the Birth of Modern Artillery
...Great book.
One of the biggest problems is that the High Command just does not want the "observer on the spot" to have any say on using heavy weapons. It was true in the heavily orchestrated artillery plans of WW1 and it is still true today.
Posted by: magpie   2022-07-14 12:53  

#1  Got some of our clearance rules from Vet Nam.

"How long from call for fire to rounds on the ground?"
"Three minutes"
"Yaaay!"

"How long to get clearance?"
"Hours. Maybe never."

Benning, 1969.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey   2022-07-14 07:33  

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