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| Poland to buy hundreds of South Korean tanks, howitzers after sending arms to Ukraine |
| 2022-07-28 |
| [Egypt Independent] Poland is buying almost 1,000 tanks, more than 600 pieces of artillery and dozens of fighter jets from South Korea, in part to replace equipment donated to Ukraine to help Kyiv fight the Russian invasion, the Polish Ministry of Defense told CNN ...formerly the Cable News Network, now who know what it might stand for... on Tuesday. The agreement, expected to be officially announced in Poland on Wednesday, will see Warsaw purchase 980 tanks based on the South Korean K2 model, 648 self-propelled K9 armored howitzers, and 48 FA-50 fighter jets, the ministry said. It would not confirm the value of the deal. The first 180 K2 tanks, made by Hyundai Rotem and equipped with auto-loading 120mm guns, are expected to arrive this year, with the production of 800 upgraded tanks starting in 2026 in Poland, according to the ministry. The first 48 K9 howitzers, made by Hanwha Defense, are also expected to arrive this year, with delivery of a second batch of 600 due to start in 2024. From 2025 these will be produced in Poland, the ministry said. The ministry said these armored vehicles would, in part, replace the Soviet-era tanks that Poland has donated to Ukraine to use in its fight against Russia. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #9 ^ Shades of Bondarchuk feelz T-34 interior with Our Lady of Czestohowa. |
| Posted by: Knuckles Grumble2372 2022-07-28 20:38 |
| #8 I'm imagining the poor tank crews... locked in a steel box with the smell of kielbasa with undertones of kimchee.. |
| Posted by: Mercutio 2022-07-28 19:42 |
| #7 Unlikely the ROKs will field directed energy weapons. Much more likely for them to use blinding handheld lasers. Similar to those demonstrated by China back in 2015 (BBQ-095, WJG-2002, PY132A and PY131A). The NORKs aren't signatories to the agreements against using blinding lasers so presumably that could be a loophole for the ROKs. No defense I'm aware of against frequency hopping blinding lasers. The best armed / motivated troops in the world aren't going to do much when they are (permanently) blinded. And it's powerful incentive for their comrades to exit stage left. |
| Posted by: Hupinemble Spolump1639 2022-07-28 14:15 |
| #6 Well NN, I have no direct or even anecdotal knowledge. But given the care and finesse that junior has handled his illegal recreational activities, I have to think we'd sure know about it if he had. As for the wife, I'm not altogether certain she's in family the Circle of Trust. More like a wrong turn at Albuquerque. |
| Posted by: Cesare 2022-07-28 14:13 |
| #5 NN2N; The only thing Russians have proven is the fact that you CANNOT army without putting Soldiers in it. An armoured vehicle needs 3-5 crew (to actually fight) as well as the support of a few 5 men dismount blobs to infantry when needed. For a very long time, very many Russian BCTs only had enough warm bodies to put 2 or in some worse cases "1" warm body to run the vehicles in the middle of their convoys (to inflate their apparent numbers) They also don't have ANY logistical capacity. They have the gear but they simply couldn't push that gear further than 20 kilometers / 12 miles from their trackheads which resulted in unbelievably erratic and unreliable arty. The Ukraine is an abject lesson in the results of graft and paper soldiers (Calling Byzantium on line 1, Calling 3 Kingdoms on line 2, Calling Babylonians on line 3...), anything else needs a very in depth look to properly analyze. Anyway, back to K2; Those things are bloody bastards, especially in pre-measured defensive actions but the magic actually lies in the ammo (for the most part). I hope Poles are bargaining hard for the guidance package tech and the C3 modules or they will only be getting slightly better/sidegrade M1A2 SEPv2s. |
| Posted by: Omose Bumble6097 2022-07-28 11:13 |
| #4 Pudge is already threatening to use nukes, which generally trump tanks |
| Posted by: Frank G 2022-07-28 10:49 |
| #3 #2 Cesare The question is: Have the Bidens (Hunter and wife) had 🤑 dealing in South Korea or North Korea? Or will the Biden handlers just let the CCP and North Korea have it? |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2022-07-28 09:45 |
| #2 You omitted the 3rd option, they don't care because the US will simply give them whatever they ask for. Worked for the Ukraine. |
| Posted by: Cesare 2022-07-28 09:19 |
| #1 So is SOUTH Korea planning to fight a different kind of War with the North next go around? Because Ukraine has shown the Tank is no longer the owner of the battlefield that it once was? Because Ukraine took out tank after tank with shoulder and team fired TOW like weapons. Or is it because South Korea has "acquired" rumored Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW) now being fielded? |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2022-07-28 07:23 |