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For Poltava, for Borodino, for Stalingrad: the West wants to take revenge on the Russians
2022-08-16
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
by Volodymyr Kornilov
Ukrainian political scientist
Kornilov says the quiet part aloud.
[RIA] In a decent society, it is not customary to seriously quote and even more so analyze the words of "the main cat of Bayun of Ukrainian propaganda" Aleksey Arestovich. He lies without a twinge of conscience on a constant basis and, most amazingly, does not even hide it. But the statement made by him in a recent interview with his colleague Dmitry Gordon cannot be ignored. Since the propagandist quite officially referred to the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov at his personal request and instruction.

We are talking about the passage in which Reznikov described a meeting with his Western colleagues at the NATO Ramstein airbase in Germany. This must be quoted verbatim: "They all shook hands on Ramstein - everyone!" And said: "Please finish off the reptile!" The Swedes added: "For Poltava!" The French added: "For Borodino!" And so on, and so on, and so on... The Germans were silent, but winked." It must be assumed that the Germans, with their wink, asked for revenge "for Stalingrad." But they are too shy to say it out loud.

In fact, the statement is significant and important. We had no doubt that the collective West, through the hands of the Ukrainians, whom it does not feel sorry for at all, is trying to weaken Russia, to take revenge on us for all its previous defeats and historical insults. It doesn't matter how fair they are or not. In the end, in all the examples given without exception (both Borodino , Poltava , not named, but implied Stalingrad) our ancestors fought and defeated the invaders who invaded our state.

And the Europeans dream of revenge for all their defeats. Again, we have no doubt about it. However, the West has so far not directly stated this, covering up its true aspirations with chatter about "defending democracy" and about some "European values" that none of them can properly formulate. The words of Arestovich/Reznikov confirm our correctness: the West, in their announced next crusade against Russia, is driven by political Russophobia and historical revanchism.

As we can see, several days have passed, and Reznikov does not refute the words of his guarantor, which actually confirms what was said. The West, on the other hand, pretends that no one has said anything of the kind. Not a single European or American media responded in any way to this important recognition of the true nature of the actions of the collective West against Russia. Although they generally like to quote Arestovich's stories about "Russian defeats" and even noticed the interview itself. But the citation of their own defense ministers, explaining the true essence of the anti-Russian campaign, for some reason did not arouse any interest in the European media.

But in vain, in these words - the recognition of tectonic processes of rethinking the future of Europe and those very notorious "European values." In these words is an acknowledgment that the wheel of history takes the continent back to dark times. After all, Europe experienced all this in the 20-30s of the last century. Only Russophobia then flourished under the brand of anti-communism, that's the whole difference.

Especially meaningful look "winks" from the representatives of Germany. One could write off this transparent allusion to the plane of jokes from Gordon and Arestovich. But you and I have heard statements by German politicians about the actual refusal to recognize historical guilt before the peoples of Russia. Otherwise, it is difficult to interpret the speech of Chancellor Olaf Scholz before the Bundestag on February 27 this year.

In it, Scholz solemnly announced the change of eras, accusing the Russian authorities of trying to "turn back the clock and return to the 19th century, to the struggle between the major powers." As if there was no such struggle in the next century. But there seems to be a nostalgia in Berlin for the 20th century and for the time that preceded "the reconciliation between Russians and Germans after World War II" (which Scholz also mentioned when recalling "a bygone era"). It is no coincidence that a number of German and Russian media interpreted this speech precisely as an official refusal to recognize Germany's historical guilt.

And it is certainly not accidental that analytical articles are now appearing in a number of Western liberal media, with visible pleasure fixing the "birth of a new Germany." The ideological mouthpiece of Western liberals, The Economist magazine, made this the main topic of its latest issue, telling readers: "Thanks to Vladimir Putin , the most important country in Europe has woken up."

To describe their emotions, the authors did not even hesitate to use the speech of Emperor Hirohito of Japan, in which he justified the aggressive, aggressive wars of his country in the 1930s and 40s (again, not an accidental analogy). The Economist writes that Germany could now turn into a "nightmare for Russia" - "a stronger, bolder, more determined leader of a more united Europe." And he concludes, so that no one has any doubts about the position of the magazine itself: "Germany badly needed this push."

Probably, someone will be surprised, but almost the same, word for word, British publications wrote about the Italian fascists and German Nazis a century ago. The Daily Mail newspaper, its founder and owner, the first Viscount Rothermer,
...the title was created in 1919 for the press lord Harold Harmsworth, 1st Baron Harmsworth. All four holders of the title have served as chairman of Daily Mail since...
especially tried then. He did not disdain to personally sign the article under the heading "Hurrah for the Blackshirts!" in January 1934, saluting the British and German Nazis. Moreover, initially he explained his love for the Nazis precisely by the desire to stop the offensive in Europe of "Bolshevism", which was associatedin Britain with the Russians.
A fair association, since the Bolsheviks overthrew the Mensheviks during the Russian Revolution period, though by that point he must also have objected to Stalinism.
To do this, the Daily Mail, together with the secret services, went on to create one of the most resonant fakes of the 20th century - the fabrication of the so-called Zinoviev letter, which overthrew the first Labor government in Britain. It was only later, having closely converged with Hitler, Lord Rothermer switched the aggression of his press mainly to the Jews.
Pretty much everyone — Communists and Socialists, Fascists, aristocrats, nationalists, trade unionists — inveighed against the Jews. They were accused of being backward dwellers of ghettos, too-modern rootless cosmopolitans, Christ-killers, Communists, bloody-handed landlords and bankers, and Elders of Zion scheming to take over the world. The Stalinists of Russia’s Soviet Union were as guilty as everyone else, adding Stalin’s very personal Doctors’ Plot (дело врачей for our Russian-speaking visitors) to the rest of the list in 1951.
Needless to say, the Rothermer family
...the Harmsworth family, actually. The Rothermer title may at some point pass to a cadet branch with a different name or go out of existence altogether, if the Harmsworths don’t produce enough descendants, but do go on...
still owns the Daily Mail, which is still one of the most circulated newspapers in Britain, continuing to do the same thing!

Like 90 years ago, the British press continues to praise the "change of eras" in Germany. As then, she openly calls on the "German eagle" to pounce on Russia. Quite in the spirit of the century-old Daily Mail, The Economist expresses the hope that a "new Germany" will enter into a "conflict over the future of the continent" because it is "Germany's opportunity to regain its place at the heart of Europe." Pay attention to this "return". After all, the hint is no less transparent than the wink of the Germans in Ramstein about "revenge for Stalingrad."

The historian and writer Nikolai Starikov also drew attention to this, pointing to the cover of this issue of The Economist, on which a German eagle hatches from an egg. Starikov remarked: "So far, this is the Bundes Eagle of modern Germany. But it’s not really about him. The eagle of the Third Reich is visible behind him." According to him, in the conditions of the economic and social crisis aggravating in Ger0many, the British use this magazine to make it clear to the Germans: "But everything can be completely different. Only at the beginning a new Germany will appear."

The historian drew a direct parallel with a similar British instigation of Hitler to "build a new order" with an obligatory initial condition - an attack on the Soviet Union.

Moreover, the same historical parallels were drawn by the neighbors of Germany, who are alarmed by the strengthening of the culprit of the two world wars. The popular Dutch site GeenStijl, for example, observed: "The call for a stronger, bolder Germany as the undisputed leader of a more united Europe in the face of the Red Peril does not merit a prize for originality." The allusion is no less transparent than the allusion to Stalingrad expressed in Ramstein by representatives of the German Ministry of Defense .

Yes, the West is driven by political and historical Russophobia. which is becoming more and more open. If in that very speech of Scholz on February 27 he was still trying to tell that Europe is not going to fight with the Russian people, seeing its enemy solely in the face of our government, now in Germany, even according to the local press, the image of a Russian person is actively cultivated as an eternal enemy. The current discussion on how to deprive Russian citizens of the opportunity to move around the EU countries once again confirms that the West has gradually begun to discard the verbal husk called "European values", which it is still trying to hide behind by inertia. If the trend continues, soon the Germans will not just hint at Stalingrad. Why be ashamed?

And Europe is again following the same rake, naively believing that this time it will be possible to attack Russia in a united front, without fighting among themselves, and finally defeat it ("finish off the vermin", according to the participants of "Ramstein"). It is no coincidence that the Wall Street Journal is already openly raving about the idea of ​​the collapse of our state, calling this process "decolonization." How can you not draw parallels with Nazi Germany again! After all, it was under this sauce that the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, approved the creation of the Vlasov center "Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia."

As you can see, leaders and eras are changing, and the West is still dreaming of the destruction of Russia as a state. Since the time of Poltava, Borodino, Stalingrad, little has changed in this sense. But it would be enough for them to leaf through the pages of history textbooks to understand two elementary truths: a) Russia always wins anyway; b) attempts to defeat Russia turn into terrible tragedies for those who start it.

Posted by:badanov

#18  Lookin' pretty ghey.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-08-16 15:04  

#17  They think the official positions of governments of the west is to tout homosexuality and pedophilia

Well, isn't it?
Posted by: Dron66046   2022-08-16 13:58  

#16  Russians only talk about what they see on media, Russian and western.

They think the official positions of governments of the west is to tout homosexuality and pedophilia. For them, that is a choice.

They choose no.
Posted by: badanov   2022-08-16 13:49  

#15  Heard some real zingers from all sides involved.

"We must get involved because transgenders are oppressed and underrepresented in the defense of Ukraine."

The call only lasted as long as Hood vs. Bismark, but it did sortie.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2022-08-16 12:51  

#14  By saying the West wants revenge for Stalingrad they are saying the west = Nazis. Not subtle but not surprising.
Posted by: ruprecht   2022-08-16 11:47  

#13  They must have found out about my "Avenge Poltava!" bumper sticker.
Posted by: Matt   2022-08-16 11:20  

#12  Mr. Wife and I stood witness with the crowd in Prague’s Charles Square (Karlovo námÄ›stí) that night in 1991 when they waited to see if the Soviet tanks were going to come over the border. Václav Havel was president then — his spine was well-tempered steel.
Posted by: trailing wife   2022-08-16 10:43  

#11  East Berlin 1953, Budapest 1956, Prague 1968, Warsaw 1981... all well remembered.
Posted by: European Conservative   2022-08-16 09:41  

#10  Some how they forget that DeGaulle told the Americans to leave and they did, except for the ones in Normandy.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-08-16 09:37  

#9  Do they remember the crushing of the Hungarians, Poles, and Czechs by you know who?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-08-16 09:34  

#8  BS

Most Europeans probably don't remember what went on in Poltava or Borodino. Stalingrad still rings a bell but few would want to have it happened the other way round.
Posted by: European Conservative   2022-08-16 09:21  

#7  But I just love their total ZFG ranting 'journalism'. There's no PC lawyerspeak or circumlocutory narrative about what is decent and good and how to protect it.

Just a lot of 'Aleksey Arestovich
is a son of a dirty bitch.
Don't believe a thing he says!
He lies all the time.
Wait... does this rhyme?
Wow! Let's take it to press!'
Posted by: Dron66046   2022-08-16 08:31  

#6  This is domestic propaganda. Everyone does it. They have to tell their people that the Yanks are all coming for 'em don't they? Everyone does it.

'Persuadable people' and all that.
Posted by: Dron66046   2022-08-16 08:19  

#5  Yep. Angry about Stalingrad. That's it.

Idiots. The west has the same fear about Russia now as it did in the early 1980s. They are aggressive. Want to keep their invasion corridors secure (which they were in the 1980s, they just couldn't have one in Poland going free) and have nukes.

Other than that most people don't give 3 shits about the greying geriatric bear.
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-08-16 08:14  

#4  ^ don't worry, they'll be plenty.

One word - Comintern
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-08-16 07:07  

#3  Seriously -- do Russians buy this crap? No one in the west gives a rat's ass about Poltava, Borodino, or Stalingrad.

I *really* hope no one outside Russia buys into this. How stupid would you have to be?
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2022-08-16 06:46  

#2  Ha ha!

How can you not draw parallels with Nazi Germany again!

We've already drawn it here, and we don't even have to be Russian to do it.😕
Posted by: Dron66046   2022-08-16 03:54  

#1  "We've given the Bear the odd poke,
But... Stalingrad? Surely you joke?
Take -- bitte! -- our Right,
Without even a fight!
Most sincerely,
The Woke Deutsches Volk"
Posted by: Count Galeazzo Jones7981   2022-08-16 03:48  

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