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| Growing Up with Guns in India |
| 2022-10-10 |
| [via TTAG] Back in those days, there were no cellphones in the "sovereign, secular, socialist, democratic republic" as India called itself. Guns had been severely restricted a few years earlier in 1984 by the socialist regime, and only those who had been issued licenses before that owned any. Any comments from our local expert?i |
| Posted by:Mercutio |
| #4 I remember the first ping I heard, supposed to be a great celebration but my heart was going thud thud thud. It was some .223 varmint thingy. And I shot a soup can off a poor servant's head. He could see the fear in my eyes, I could see it in his. While grandpa sat drunk in a chair. It was much less than 100 yards surely. I drew the line at animals. I never went hunting. Old man would say I'll grow up a fag of some sort. 😋 |
| Posted by: Dron66046 2022-10-10 23:48 |
| #3 Thanks, D. That's what I was hoping for..... BTW__ if I had to do the William Tell thing with my grandpa, I'd still be serving time. |
| Posted by: Mercutio 2022-10-10 18:29 |
| #2 India has always been a class graded society. Before the mid 80s infact, some communities had well armed militias and Arsenal's full of WW2 hardware. SMLEs, 98Ks, M1891s, Webleys and Mausers. These were all martial clans that had either fought in the war or fought the Brits or crazily... both. And they were the dominant communities, the leadership representative of mostly their will. Moslems, non-mainstream tribal groups, outliers and those designated even by the Brits as 'criminal communities' had almost no representation in law enforcement, judiciary or legislation. Until the late 80s. The insanely apologist riff raff loving regime saw the tightening of the socialist noose, with 'reservation' and affirmative action and other apologist type policies. The martial communities and erstwhile royals had been gradually dis-empowered already, now India began to be groomed and cajoled into the socialist ideal of being 'good obedient cirizens'. And then began the great social re-engineering as jurists and babus had been taught by Marxist professors who had themselves studied in Moscow in the 70s. They were full of ideas about taking away self-defense and equalizing everyone for the coercive power if the State, redistributing affluence by reserving government jobs for 'the minorities'. True gun control didn't kick in until the mid 90s when the bureaucracy came to be flooded with appeasement appointees from classes of people who has been shot, lynched and beaten for being public nuisances earlier. And they brought their class angst to the job believe me. From licensing to permits and tighter controls, the new bureaucracy saw to it that not even defending yourself or your family was ever clearly justifiable. I think there's a lesson there, of course it's too late. A society, if it has successfully subdued its sub-societies for hundreds of years must never give in to self-righteous hoopla and sign on to become 'equal'. I know it sounds very mean and fascist but it keeps your own families safe. And survival is the highest ideal in nature. Everything else is noise. In my household, which was a mish mash of cultures but essentially very martial, ridiculously machismo worshiping patriarchs hunted not just quail and boar but the occasional tribal, the moslem reportedly stealing cattle, the brigand funding his personal 'revolution' by robbing weddings. There were a thousand rifles in my house alone. Mostly Lee Enfield 303s. My grandpa used to shoot tins off my head at 100-150 yards. Then make me do the same. I was beaten if I purposely shot too far off to avoid killing him. 😁 That was growing up with guns in India for me. |
| Posted by: Dron66046 2022-10-10 15:31 |
| #1 And then there are the Swiss. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2022-10-10 06:50 |