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Dissent Cable Shows Biden ‘Allowed’ Afghanistan to Collapse: US Congressman
2023-06-08
[KhaamaPress] A US politician, Darrell Issa, said the Biden Administration’s narrative of unpreparedness for the country’s sudden collapse in 2021 was rebuked in a dissent cable.

Issa, who serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told Fox News he was the first committee member to view the dissent channel cable from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul and Washington’s response.

According to Fox News, Issa, a House Foreign Affairs Committee member, was claimed to be the first committee member to see the cable from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul that sparked controversy and the government’s response.

"What we saw was their prediction, with great accuracy, of exactly what would happen and what the outcome would be if they did not change their directions," the congressman said. "We saw a response from the office of the State Department saying, ’We hear you, and we agree we do not take it lightly.’ And then, obviously, we know what they did and did not do, which was totally insufficient for the warning that was given."

"They redacted the specific names, but we now know that many of them were senior executive surrogates, meaning people that are paid at the highest level in the State Department," he continued. "They knew and understood that there was no way that the Afghan military was going to defend successfully. They did not disagree with that, and as a result, they knew that Kabul would fall within weeks, that the Taliban
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would do what they have done."

Suicide bombers killed 183 people, including 13 American service personnel, on August 26, 2021, during the U.S. military’s mass evacuation at the Kabul airport. The United States responded by launching two dronezaps against alleged ISIS-K terrorists, one of which resulted in the deaths of 10 Afghan civilians, including seven children.

Immediately after the Afghanistan fiasco, critics called for the resignation of Blinken, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, but no one was fired.

On the other hand, the current regime of Kabul was also blamed for not abiding by what was agreed in the Doha agreement. They restricted women’s rights, including education and working with aid agencies.

These incidents have brought the country to the verge of collapse and a terrible humanitarian crisis.
Posted by:trailing wife

#11  Patton was pretty vain as well. Bull Halsey or US Grant maybe.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-06-08 20:37  

#10  *cough*MacArthur*cough*
Posted by: Procopius2k   2023-06-08 20:09  

#9  ^ Patton, Eisenhower and McArthur never wasted a moment worring about how they would look in the newspapers, unless it was because they lost.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-06-08 17:44  

#8  Envy of the post war generation who watched what their parents did in Germany and Japan. They forgot the preparation involved making the rubble bounce in both cases. Note well, that both cultures had a long martial history of centuries are now probably the least likely to incite that activity.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2023-06-08 16:50  

#7  /\ Or California.
Posted by: Besoeker   2023-06-08 12:17  

#6  An unknown percentage of Afghans would love to see us roll back in tomorrow. I don’t think that will ever happen. If we want to nation build, there’s alway Haiti.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-06-08 12:08  

#5  Bush got rolled, and bought the whole nation-building, stability, outpost of Freedom, pick-your-own-slogan, sales pitch. Never the brightest bulb in Bab's litter, he should have stopped with the crushing display of righteous American anger as Cesare so perfectly described above!

"...it was essentially won in early '02. Although I would have argued for more widespread destruction dome more quickly as in make the rubble bounce and hard, so hard they feel it in ALL the adjoining countries.

Forget nation building, we don't care. Just remember, WE did this to you and you really, REALLY don't want us coming back."
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2023-06-08 11:53  

#4  /\ Yes, pretty well acknowledged globally, but still an excellent MIC mechanism to extort money from hapless taxpayers.

"War is our business and business is good." Appears to remain so today.
Posted by: Besoeker   2023-06-08 11:01  

#3  A Punitive Raid, what the Queen Victoria's soldiers called a "Butcher & Bolt", was practical and we 'won' that. Nation Building in a geographic locale full of squabbling tribes is pipedream -- if they can't do it on their own how can we 'force' it to happen?
Posted by: magpie   2023-06-08 10:08  

#2   Should we have ever been there? Was it ever winnable?

Yes, it definitely was, but NOT with 20+ years of Klingon-DoS political meddling, targeted arrests, and Paki coddling.

I can assure you, the DoD did not run the show or control the action. The disastrous final days provide proof and confirmation of that. Yes, clear evidence of who was left holding the bag, and it wasn't anyone from the US Embassy or the worthless foks back at Foggy Bottom or Langley.

Posted by: Besoeker   2023-06-08 07:28  

#1  I have a hard time with 'allowed'. That drooling imbecile banned all contractors some months before. I remember a statement at the time that the administration was effectively too high minded to tolerate such 'thugs'.

No doubt played well in Brooklyn. But it didn't account for the entirety of Afghan air maintenance. No maintenance, no fly it's that simple. No fly, no air support, no re-supply, no rotations or replacements.

That removes an intrinsic, foundational element of counterinsurgency warfare from the entire post WWII era. Especially in terrain like the Afghan theater. Done the way it was months in advance it allowed the ground forces to get an up close and personal view of what their future held.

Should we have ever been there? Was it ever winnable? Those are larger questions are do not detract from the air contractor issue at a crucial juncture. A partial mirror of what the socialist vermin did to the ARVN's.

For my part, it was essentially won in early '02. Although I would have argued for more widespread destruction dome more quickly as in make the rubble bounce and hard, so hard they feel it in ALL the adjoining countries.

Forget nation building, we don't care. Just remember, WE did this to you and you really, REALLY don't want us coming back. That might not have played well in Brooklyn.
Posted by: Cesare   2023-06-08 07:18  

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