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Russian troops are being killed fleeing through their own defensive minefields, UK reveals as Ukraine captures ANOTHER village from Putin's forces in growing counterattack
2023-06-12
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Ukraine captured Storozheve, taking control of fourth village in counterattack

  • The UK's Ministry of Defence said good progress was being made in some areas

  • Comes after Ukraine said it captured Neskuchne, Blahodatne and Makarivka

Posted by:Skidmark

#10  information and psychology, cognition and semantics

I don't see any of the factions pushing this conflict as being anywhere near the potent end of the intellectual spectrum.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-06-12 16:25  

#9  'The Russia-Ukraine conflict isn’t just about the clash of armed forces on the battlefield. It has also been marked by unprecedented levels of confrontation in the fields of information and psychology, cognition and semantics'.
Posted by: Dale   2023-06-12 15:52  

#8  No breakthroughs yet. Ukrainian equipment destroyed trying to go thru extensive Russian mine field with at least two Ukrainian mine sweepers destroyed.
Posted by: Dale   2023-06-12 15:48  

#7  Hmmm? Russia moved 90% of its reserves to the Zaporizhzhia direction and used almost all available forces to deter the Ukrainian counteroffensive, reports Welt.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-06-12 14:53  

#6  The main armored fist of 10 brigades that is the main attack force still hasn't been committed. These are smaller attacks that are not only proving for weak spots, but to draw the Russian reserves in and pin them in place. The fact they have pushed past the first defensive line and are penetrating the second is reason for optimism.

Once the reserves are pinned, the 10 brigade force will be turned loose.
Posted by: DarthVader   2023-06-12 14:10  

#5  Penetration is 8-10km and through the first defense line. The main defense line will come in another 10km. That's just to get to Tokmak.

I don't think this is where the main attack will occur. This attack, like Bakhmut, is to lure Russian reserves. I believe the main attack will happen closer to the Khakhovka reservoir or in Lugansk and make a big left hook in Donetsk behind Russian defenses.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-06-12 13:31  

#4  these villages liberated are all pretty near the front

so I don't see any breakthroughs yet

still, its early

the Kharkiv counteroffensive took about a month

the Kherson counteroffensive took about two months
Posted by: lord garth   2023-06-12 13:17  

#3  Runaway
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-06-12 12:36  

#2  LuLz
Posted by: mossomo   2023-06-12 12:35  

#1  Novodarivka (a few km west of the main fighting in Zaporozhye) liberated.

Fighting in Urozhaine and approaching Staromaiors'ke (two towns next to each other and next in line as Ukrainians drive south).

Unconfirmed reports of Russian forces withdrawing to a defensive line just above Staromaiors'ke and Urozhaine where battles continue and also withdrawing from the town of Rivnopil under pressure.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-06-12 11:11  

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