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OceanGate: About lovers of underwater extreme sports
2023-06-23
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Commentary taken from the Telegram posting of Karga4

[ColonelCassad] This story is amazing: the bathyscaphe, which went to the sunken Titanic, drowned itself. The trip cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

However, the entertainment turned out to be dangerous. On June 18, the bathyscaphe disappeared from the radar, there were five people on board. The missing submarine is now being searched for by rescue teams from several countries.

Here's who's on board the bathyscaphe now:

  • Businessman and explorer Hamish Harding, a three-time Guinness World Record holder; he holds the world record for the fastest flight around the Earth, dived to the bottom of the Mariana Trench and flew into space on the New Shepard;

  • Businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman are members of one of the wealthiest families in Pakistan;

  • Paul-Henri Narjolet - French explorer, pilot;

  • Stockton Rush is the CEO of OceanGate.

What we managed to learn during this time:
  • - the bathyscaphe was made in a garage

  • - it was not tested by specialized companies

  • - glass was installed that was not intended for diving to a depth of 4 km

  • - OceanGate ignored the warnings about the danger of the bathyscaphe barrel from an engineer, and even fired him

  • - they did not hire white men for the sake of inclusiveness

  • - specialized companies asked not to use the bathyscaphe

  • - the bathyscaphe is controlled by the Logitech F710 gamepad

  • - the porthole of the bathyscaphe is in a latrine closed by a curtain from the rest of the room

  • - the bathyscaphe has no external lighting at all

  • - the bathyscaphe has a dubious emergency ascent system, in the form of two anvils on the body

  • - the bathyscaphoon control system is presented in the form of 4 engines. Two for moving up and two for moving down

  • - there is simply no system for stabilizing horizontal movement

  • - the external wiring is made to fuck off, and its tails weigh on the surface of the bathyscaphe.

It turns out that billionaires risked their lives (and most likely died) just to be able to look at the wreckage of the Titanic through muddy water, through a window the size of a plate, hovering head over the toilet.

https://t.me/karga4/343292 - zinc

More from regnum.ru
US Coast Guard: all who were in the bathyscaphe "Titan" - died

The US Coast Guard left no doubt that the wreckage discovered on June 22 refers to the missing Titan submersible in the Atlantic. Experts confirmed that everyone who was inside the underwater vehicle died. This was stated to reporters by Rear Admiral of the US Coast Guard John Mauger .

It is noted that the wreckage of the bathyscaphe "Titan" was found 200 meters from the bow of the "Titanic".

“During consultation with experts, it was concluded that the wreckage indicates a catastrophic loss of the passenger capsule. There was a catastrophic inward explosion with the bathyscaphe, ” the rear admiral said, expressing condolences to the families of the victims.

At the site of the discovery of the wreckage, work continues to collect all evidence of the incident. Participants in the search operation acknowledge that, due to the depth at which the wreckage is located, and the complexity of working on it, the likelihood of finding the remains of the dead is small.

As reported by IA Regnum, the wreckage found in the Atlantic Ocean on June 22 is considered part of the missing submersible "Titan."

Expert David Mearns said that the landing frame and the rear cover of the device were found. The design of the bathyscaphe is non-standard, and therefore the probability of error is small.

There were five people on board the bathyscaphe. The company sold tourist tickets for the Titan, which descended to the Titanic that sank in the early 20th century for $250,000.

Communication with the bathyscaphe disappeared on June 19.

The president and founder of OceanGate Expeditions, Stockton Rush , French aquanaut Paul-Henri Narjolet , British billionaire Hamish Harding, as well as 48-year-old Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his 19-year-old son Suleiman, who lived in the UK, died as a result of an emergency with a bathyscaphe.

Yet more from regnum.ru
Rescuers examined the found wreckage of the missing submersible "Titan"

Found in the Atlantic Ocean, the wreckage is believed to be part of the missing submersible "Titan", according to CNN.

“The wreckage found in the search area for the missing Titan submersible was assessed as the outer part of the submarine,” the TV channel reports.

As IA Regnum reported, two parts discovered on June 22 in the Atlantic Ocean in the search area for the Titan bathyscaphe presumably belong to the missing submarine.

Expert David Mearns said that the landing frame and the rear cover of the device were found. The design of the bathyscaphe is non-standard, and therefore the probability of error is small, he believes.

The operating company of the Titan submersible missing in the Atlantic Ocean, OceanGate Expeditions, considers the crew members and passengers dead.

"When you study the situation with the disappearance and probable death of the Titan deep-sea submersible, which was heading for the wreckage of the Titanic, one gets the impression that its designers were saving on everything," Evgeny Chernyaev, Hero of Russia, commander of the deep-sea submersible "Mir-2" of the laboratory for the scientific operation of deep-sea manned submersibles of the P. I. Shirshov Institute of Oceanology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, told this to a Regnum correspondent.

"Titan" is a deep-sea manned vehicle, which, in fact, is closer to a small autonomous submarine, the expert explained.

Yet more, again from regnum.ru
"Neglected everything!" The oceanologist explained the disappearance of the apparatus "Titan"

When you study the situation with the disappearance and probable death of the Titan deep-sea submersible, which was heading for the wreckage of the Titanic, one gets the impression that its designers were saving on everything. On June 22, Evgeny Chernyaev, Hero of Russia, commander of the deep-sea submersible "Mir-2" of the laboratory for the scientific operation of deep-sea manned submersibles of the P. I. Shirshov Institute of Oceanology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, told this to a Regnum correspondent on June 22.

In an interview with an IA Regnum correspondent, he criticized the version of Alexander Inzartsev, chief researcher at the Institute of Marine Technology Problems named after academician M. D. Ageev, according to which the Titan could explode when it reached a certain depth due to "fatigue of the bathyscaphe hull material."

“This is a deep-sea manned vehicle! There are no bathyscaphes now at all. They don't make sense. What is a bathysphere? This is a tethered craft. A bathyscaphe is the same as a bathysphere, but without a cable - an apparatus that simply lowers and rises,” the expert said.

As the oceanologist emphasized, the Titan is a deep-sea manned vehicle, which, in fact, is closer to a small autonomous submarine.

Arguing about the causes of what happened, Chernyaev noticed that the titanium used in the manufacture of this device does not hold cyclic loads well.

“And if there is some area where there is more deflection during crushing, then for titanium it is much worse than for steel. It is stronger than steel. But if we make a four-centimeter case out of steel, then a six-centimeter one should be made out of titanium. Because titanium is not elastic and microcracks appear on the deflection. And when I saw that it was a pipe, I gasped. Because the pipe is loaded unevenly, and there the metal will get tired somewhere very quickly,” said Chernyaev.

Moreover, as the oceanologist emphasized, it turned out that there was no hydroacoustic communication on the device.

"They… corresponded! This is outrageous! They didn't set up an underwater connection. And they couldn’t speak," the expert was indignant.

Chernyaev said that it was wrong to say that "the bathyscaphe could collapse." It would rather refer to a spherical design. And when it comes to a pipe, it begins to collapse in some weak spot. First, a crack appears, but there will not necessarily be an explosion.

"Most likely, there will be no collapse as such," Chernyaev said.

According to him, "Titan" was deprived of even the simplest and cheapest navigation "with a short base."

“It was necessary to install rods on the ship on both sides, firmly fix them. Hydrophones will be lowered into the water. And put another transponder on the device, which will respond to a request from above. Then it would be possible to accurately determine the coordinates of the object,” he said.

This deep-sea vehicle, according to the scientist, would never have passed any registration, even if it had the right hull.

“Although with such a hull it was impossible to go to the depth where the Titanic lies,” he said. - But the creators of the "Titan" neglected everything they could! It turns out that even the hatch could not be opened from the inside. It doesn't go anywhere! If the apparatus floated to the surface, then it should be possible to open the hatch from the inside. Everything is blatantly wrong. Even the Titanic didn't break as many rules as the Titan. It violates all valid laws."

Summing up what was said, he noted that, apparently, when creating the device, they saved on everything - “they didn’t even want to buy a pinger for five kopecks.” There were no simple things like an emergency buoy on a cable that pops up and shows where the device is.

Earlier, IA Regnum reported that, according to Inzartsev, if the Titan was lost under the side of the Titanic or inside it, then the situation with its detection is much more complicated. In this case, one cannot do without remotely controlled uninhabited vehicles or without using a second search bathyscaphe.

According to preliminary data from the US Coast Guard, oxygen supplies on the Titan ran out on June 22 at 14:08 Moscow time. The search and rescue operation has been going on for three days at depths that exceed 4,000 meters. Ships, deep-sea vehicles and aircraft from France, Canada, the USA and Great Britain participated in it. Later, the US Coast Guard announced the discovery of unidentified debris in the search area for the Titan. There is no confirmation yet that this is a missing device.
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OceanGate: 2023-06-22 OceanGate Roundup: Fired pilot of OceanGate submersibles warned of their danger -- UPDATED x 2
OceanGate: 2023-06-21 The Company Behind the Missing Tourist Sub Fired an Employee After He Expressed Safety Concerns
Posted by:badanov

#12  In the old school, you NEVER put a system into a catastrophic situation without first being well tested.

Ah yes, the old school. Those 50-year-old white dudes that nobody wants to hire because they are always telling you that your genius plan will not work for stupid reasons like thermodynamics or physics or something.

As we learn more about the incident, it sounds like the sub lacked some basic safety features like a pinger, emergency buoy, external lights, a hatch that opened from the inside.

From the HR perspective, engineers are fungible, one is as good as another with the only difference being salary and bennies. On the job, the difference is that the old dude has a few decades of mistake-making and OJT that the newbie lacks. Kinda makes me wonder if the catastrophic failures we see lately - imploding subs, stylish bridges falling down, electric grids collapsing - are a result of the new kids on the job.

I would totally go down in a home-made submarine to look at the Titanic thru a little port hole. But I'd lower the sub on a rope first a couple three times first to make sure it won't implode.
Posted by: SteveS   2023-06-23 22:52  

#11  Direct proof of how ignorant today's generation of western business brass are. In the old school, you NEVER put a system into a catastrophic situation without first being well tested.
Posted by: Slats Snore5077   2023-06-23 19:48  

#10  The Biden administration knew the Titan submarine imploded Sunday. But waited until today to make it public. Convenient smokescreen for today’s House Ways & Means release of IRS whistleblower testimony of DOJ sabotage of the Hunter Biden investigation. https://t.co/RtRcCihIZT

— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) June 22, 2023
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2023-06-23 18:27  

#9  "Next!"
Posted by: ed in texas   2023-06-23 17:23  

#8  "Does it always make that sound?"
"Uhhh. No."
Posted by: Frank G   2023-06-23 14:22  

#7  ...Look up the acoustic detection analysis on the ARA San Juan, and Argentine sub that went down a few years ago. San Juan was actually higher than Titan, and the analysts state that the water entering the hull did so as an essentially solid force at 'about 1800 MPH'. The pressure hull was 'destroyed/compacted' in 'about 40 milliseconds'(0.040 seconds, or about 1/25th of a second)' which is about half the time needed for the human brain to recognize what is happening.

They might have known what was coming, but they didn't feel it when it did.

Mike
Posted by: MikeKozlowski   2023-06-23 14:04  

#6  The Logitech controller was Bluetooth.

They say the vessel because of the intense pressure - it popped like a balloon and they died instantly.
Posted by: mossomo   2023-06-23 13:01  

#5  Jacques Cousteau is shaking his head.
Posted by: DooDahMan   2023-06-23 11:27  

#4  /\ But it was the lead shielded system, not the one used in the US Embassy Havana.
Posted by: Besoeker   2023-06-23 10:28  

#3  shhhh

its a secret.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2023-06-23 09:47  

#2  US Navy detected Titan sub implosion with top secret acoustic system day vessel went missing

Media obfuscates Biden hearings.
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-06-23 09:10  

#1  Days after the implosion, the information is released.

James Cameron says he was told on MONDAY Titanic sub imploded as he slams 'futile' rescue
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-06-23 09:03  

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