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| US Coast Guard launches an investigation into the tragedy with the bathyscaphe 'Titan' |
| 2023-06-26 |
| Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited. [Regnum] US Coast Guard Rear Admiral John Mauger told reporters on June 25 that the agency had begun an official investigation into the tragedy of the missing Titan submersible. Moger noted that a commission had been set up to investigate the disappearance of the underwater vehicle, as well as the causes of the death of five people in it. Coast Guard Captain Jason Newbauer will lead the investigation . As reported by IA Regnum, former British Royal Navy submarine captain Ryan Ramsey noted two possible reasons for the crash of the Titan submersible in the Atlantic Ocean. Ramsey suggested that one of the versions of the explosion - the hatch with bolts used to seal the ship - broke, which led to the destruction of the bathyscaphe's hull. The second possible cause of the disaster is that the hull of the underwater vehicle was designed with errors, it could not withstand the water pressure. On June 23, it became known that the people who were in the Titan bathyscaphe died painlessly, and their bodies are unlikely to be found. According to experts, the destruction of the body of the apparatus occurred in a fraction of a millisecond, and people, most likely, did not even have time to realize what had happened. The company sold tourist tickets for the Titan, which descended to the Titanic that sank in the early 20th century, for $250,000. Bathyscaphe disappeared from radar on June 18, almost immediately after the descent. The cause of the explosion could be its faulty batteries. So says the historian of the submarine fleet, captain of the 1st rank, officer of the submarine fleet Nikolai Cherkashin. |
| Posted by:badanov |
| #15 Did this occur in US waters? No. Was this mission run from the US? No. Why is this supposed to be any of your business? Kind of like the US foreign policy? |
| Posted by: DooDahMan 2023-06-26 22:20 |
| #14 Look into Thresher accident for interesting SOSUS discussion. The ‘failed valve’ was never proven, just the consensus of the accident board. The acoustic record provided a different theory, but when that goes against ADM. Rickover, well draw your own thoughts. But in dockside trials, Thresher did have the moisture in the air for the ballast blow tanks freeze as there was no moisture-removing system installed. Blocked airflow. That came after Thresher. |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2023-06-26 15:31 |
| #13 Investigation with lots of media potential, chances to justify jobs, organizations, positive PR, what Biden political appointee would pass that up? For the SOSUS guys, a chance to evaluate how your reporting system reacted to something undersea off the coast of North America that went kaboom at depth, with the bulk of the non-classified work done by the "Puddle Pirates". |
| Posted by: NoMoreBS 2023-06-26 15:05 |
| #12 ^ how often do they hear that kind of pop? I'm sure the experienced ones can tell subs apart like a good tracker following game. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2023-06-26 14:05 |
| #11 Skid, exactly. The listeners may not have even been aware that the submersible was being launched, and that it had disappeared. Only later when they went back and looked at the data did they realize "Hey, that funny noise we heard could have been it." |
| Posted by: Rambler in Virginia 2023-06-26 12:21 |
| #10 What amazes me is... Acoustic data collection poss monitored by Seaman 0 class. No alerts posted to alarm. Data released at end-of-shift for next day review. Missing vessel report posted. Somebody said, 'Oh yeah. (We) might have heard that." Data pulled from the 3 shifts prior 'unremarkable' archive for review. Incident confirmed to upstairs. Policy manual reviewed for information release constraints. Appropriate command level is notified. Release authorized. 4 days later. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2023-06-26 12:06 |
| #9 #2 Why are the US taxpayers funding this when all evidence points to an egocentric and arrogant individual that flaunted all the rules and the accident took place in international waters? This is crazy Posted by: USN, Ret. 2023-06-26 07:45 USN, My understanding is that since the USCG was tasked to help and there were US citizens aboard, they have the right to institute a full investigation. Yes, it's more of Our Tax Dollars At Work, but quite honestly if they help put a crimp in the Titanic tourism industry I for one will consider it money well spent. My $0.02 of course, YMMV. :) #8 The detection of the implosion is not a new thing. The wreck of the USS Scorpion was found using similar data. The work of Dr. John P. Craven at the US Navy's Special Project Office was key to that effort. I'd expect that the US Navy is still interested in any new empirical observations that can be made from such events. And here's one to examine. Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-06-26 09:59 M. Murcek, What amazes me is this: the best way to picture what the USN did is to imagine standing about 300 feet from a six lane interstate with nothing but longhaul trucks blasting along at 70 MPH...and being able to pick out from the middle of it a Coke can being run over. Mike |
| Posted by: MikeKozlowski 2023-06-26 11:15 |
| #8 The detection of the implosion is not a new thing. The wreck of the USS Scorpion was found using similar data. The work of Dr. John P. Craven at the US Navy's Special Project Office was key to that effort. I'd expect that the US Navy is still interested in any new empirical observations that can be made from such events. And here's one to examine. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-06-26 09:59 |
| #7 Let's take bets. #1 - Rapid de-lamination of Carbon Fibers due to multiple stress micro-fractures obtained during previous 'voyages'. (Someone here at the 'burg said something to the effect of "Carbon Fiber is very strong, until it isn't") #2 - 'Inspiring' pilots, with knowledge of game controllers, utilized in lieu of someone with actual undersea experience in what to do for an emergency. (Probably moot point if #1 occurred, although someone experienced might have actually checked hull conditions in detail prior to dive) #3 - Idiot (and greedy) company owner(s) who bypassed deep dive hull safety conventions when constructing this little non-metallic death trap. |
| Posted by: Mullah Richard 2023-06-26 09:55 |
| #6 Did this occur in US waters? No. Was this mission run from the US? No. Why is this supposed to be any of your business? |
| Posted by: ed in texas 2023-06-26 09:33 |
| #5 The pilot. Never was a man so relieved he was fired. |
| Posted by: Enver Slager8035 2023-06-26 08:33 |
| #4 Didn't the company fire an employee who spoke out on safety concerns some time ago? Surely "investigators" will be beating a path to this employee's door. Surely. |
| Posted by: DooDahMan 2023-06-26 08:28 |
| #3 It's funny how with some disasters it's urgent to "learn from it" while with others it's "nothing to see here" all the way down. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-06-26 07:47 |
| #2 Why are the US taxpayers funding this when all evidence points to an egocentric and arrogant individual that flaunted all the rules and the accident took place in international waters? This is crazy |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2023-06-26 07:45 |
| #1 Inquisitive cartel readers want to know. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2023-06-26 00:08 |