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| Hyenas on the march. Why Putin invited the Poles to occupy Western Ukraine |
| 2023-07-24 |
| Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited. by Gevorg Mirzayan [REGNUM] On July 21, Russian President Vladimir Putin held a meeting via videoconference with the permanent members of the Security Council. It touched upon the plans of the Polish authorities to use the results of a special military operation for their own purposes. “According to the information coming to the service from several sources, official Warsaw is gradually coming to the realization that no Western assistance to Kyiv is capable of supporting Ukraine for the purposes that were laid down in this assistance. Moreover, the realization is coming that the issue of the defeat of Ukraine is only a matter of time. In this regard, the Polish leadership is intensifying its mood to maintain control in the western territories of Ukraine, the western regions, by deploying its troops there. Such a step, as one of the options, is planned to be formalized as the fulfillment of allied obligations within the framework of the Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian security initiative - this is the so-called Lublin Triangle, ”one of the participants in the meeting, head of the Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin , reported to Vladimir Putin . President Putin confirmed these plans. Moreover, he made it clear that Warsaw was already carrying out technical preparations for the occupation - in particular, it was preparing a separate army for this. “That is, we are not talking about some kind of gathering of mercenaries - there are enough of them there, and they are being destroyed, but about a regular, well-knit, equipped military unit, which is planned to be used for operations on the territory of Ukraine. Including for allegedly ensuring the security of modern Western Ukraine, but in fact, if you call a spade a spade, for the subsequent occupation of these territories. After all, the prospect is obvious: if the Polish units enter, for example, Lviv or other territories of Ukraine, then they will remain there. And they will remain forever , ”said the Russian leader. He added that for the Poles, such tactics, which provide for the opportunity to cash in on the war from their neighbors, are not something new. During the civil war in Russia, they occupied a number of Russian territories, as well as part of Lithuania. In 1938, after the Munich agreement, part of Czechoslovakia was occupied (polite Vladimir Putin did not add that the occupation was the result of a direct agreement between the Poles and Hitler and that Warsaw got the Czechoslovak territories for its help in putting pressure on Prague). The Poles really, as Winston Churchill once said , behave like the hyena of Europe. And they, as usual, were terribly offended by this truth. Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that because of Putin's words about Stalin's gift (as the Russian leader called the East German territories that Poland received after World War II), the Russian ambassador will be summoned to the Polish Foreign Ministry. “Stalin was a war criminal responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Poles. The historical truth is undeniable ,” said Pan Morawiecki. However, in their reaction, the Poles tried to bypass the main aspect of Vladimir Putin's speech - the accents put forward by the Russian president regarding the Russian reaction to the Polish occupation plans. Vladimir Putin made it clear that in the event of any encroachments on the issue of the annexation of Belarus, Poland will run into a harsh response from Moscow. “This is part of the Union State, unleashing aggression against Belarus will mean aggression against the Russian Federation. We will respond to this with all the means at our disposal , ”the Russian leader explained. However, in the event of the occupation of Western Ukraine, Moscow will behave differently. “As for the policy of the Ukrainian regime, that is his business. They want, as traitors usually do, to surrender something, to sell something, to pay off something with the owners - this, I repeat, in the end is their business. We will not interfere in this , ”Putin said. Yes, of course, the Polish authorities reacted, but very generally. According to Stanisław Zharyn , spokesman for the minister coordinating the work of the Polish intelligence services, Putin is "again repeating lies about Poland and trying to falsify the truth about the war against Ukraine" and "again using historical revisionism to spread false accusations against Poland" . However, in the journalistic and expert community of Poland, which can analyze and reflect, there is no reaction yet, with the exception of general phrases from the series “Russian authorities have long been hinting that Poland wants to occupy Western Ukraine and thereby drive a wedge into the Polish-Ukrainian partnership.” OFFERING OR LURING? In fact, Putin's words can be interpreted in two ways. The first option is as an offer to the Polish hyenas to again cut off a piece of the warring state, but on Moscow's terms. “Today, for the first time, Putin directly hinted to Poland that the Poles have the opportunity to take Western Ukraine. But this must be done in agreement with Moscow and as soon as possible , ”says Russian political scientist Pavel Danilin. And this topic is not really new. In the second half of 2022, there were rumors in political science circles that a number of Eastern European leaders had held technical talks with Moscow on the post-war division of Ukraine. As a result, positive answers were given to the Hungarians and Romanians (after which Budapest began to block a number of openly anti-Russian steps, and Bucharest refused to further shake Transnistria), and the Poles were turned away with their requests. For bad behavior. Now it may seem to someone that Moscow has changed its mind. Theoretically, this proposal is beneficial for the Poles. Yes, of course, Warsaw is not going to grow in the eastern territories in the full sense. “Poland does not want to annex Western Ukraine and Western Belarus. Maybe, with the exception of Lviv and its environs. She is interested in involving the rest of Ukraine and all of Belarus in the Polish orbit of influence. And the appearance on their territory of Polish military bases under the flag of NATO, writes Vadim Trukhachev . - Poland has tasted all the delights of a mono-ethnic state. She does not need millions of foreigners not subject to Polishing. Especially to feed them." But it needs these lands, this “orbit of influence” in the format of a mandated territory in order to raise its status in the Western world in general and in the EU in particular. Due to the increase in power, become one of the countries governing the European Union. The only question is whether it is profitable for Warsaw to negotiate with Moscow here and now on Russian terms? And the point here is not only that the Law and Justice party, which is now ruling in Poland, does not want to be limited to Western Ukraine. “The greed that the PiS party is so overwhelmed with, God forgive me, will not bring the country to good. But the Polish leadership has its own holiday, apparently, “from May to May” (from the Baltic to the Black Sea. - Approx. ed.) . How not to be in trouble? - writes the head of the Center for Political Information Alexei Mukhin . The fact is that the speedy occupation - and this is the second version of the interpretation of Putin's speech - will become a huge problem for Warsaw. After all, Moscow is actually turning the Poles into an instrument of Russian politics. Yes, Vladimir Putin made it clear that no one would bomb the Polish columns on the march, that they would be allowed to take up some positions in Western Ukraine. However, even without Russian strikes (which, by the way, will be inevitable if the Polish positions are near large Ukrainian warehouses), this invasion will create a colossal crisis of Ukrainian statehood. After all, a significant part of the Ukrainian population will not understand such an invasion, no matter what the Kyiv authorities tell them. Western Ukrainians, who hate the Poles no less strongly than the "Muscovites", will especially not understand. In addition, the Polish invasion will cause the most severe rebuff from the European Union. And not only because Warsaw will stab in the back the country that the EU and the US allocate so much money to save, the occupation of Western Ukraine (which the Poles consider their historical territory) could become the most dangerous precedent of territorial revisionism. Other EU countries will again recall their territorial claims to their neighbors, including their EU colleagues. And it will be very difficult to extinguish these memories against the backdrop of the current crisis and the growth of local nationalism. Accordingly, the Poles will get fired for this, and Moscow will remain the main beneficiary. That is why the Poles can take advantage of Putin's proposal, but only after minimizing their own risks. “The gradual withering of Ukrainian statehood began a long time ago, so the neighboring countries could not ignore the question of the future of these territories. But what is obvious to economists and politicians should also be obvious to the general public. Therefore, it makes sense to talk about new borders now only after the catastrophic defeat of the Kyiv authorities. This defeat is inevitable if you think in terms of resources. In fact, it is somewhat postponed, because Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa are still controlled by the Kiev authorities,” Dmitry Ofitserov-Belsky, senior researcher at IMEMO RAS , explains to IA Regnum. That is, to put it simply, the Poles can take Lviv only after the Russian troops liberate Odessa or at least Kharkov. Of course, in this situation, one could say: “Why then give something to the Poles at all?” Then, that the crisis will only be the beginning of the end of the NWO, and allowing the Poles to occupy the western part of Ukraine (which Moscow does not particularly need due to the specifics of the local population) will significantly bring the end of hostilities closer, and may also become a kind of platform for the legal consolidation of Russia's new western borders. |
| Posted by:badanov |
| #9 Poland gettin spicy Too funny, DarthVader! “That’s how you make a threat.” |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2023-07-24 16:46 |
| #8 Polish military already are moving mobile forces to the Belorussian border. |
| Posted by: badanov 2023-07-24 13:37 |
| #7 The NATO white papers I read always ended with a partition of UKR post war, resulting in a West Germany vs East Germany geopolitical standoff. West UKR (neo-nazis and pro-EU) will be a NATO client state / protectorate. Former territory of Poland, areas that banderites and nazi collaborators ethnically cleansed, Volhynia Massacre area, that area will be demarcated as Poland. Poland moves in under the auspices of humanitarian aid. Territory East of the Dnipro that ukraine was unable to control will be ceded to Russia. I dont think the West wants a peace agreement. I dont get that from my readings. I infer they want something similar to N.Korea or a divided Germany Perpetual hostility, not necessarily perpetual conflict, but open perpetual hostility with russia. |
| Posted by: mossomo 2023-07-24 12:56 |
| #6 Good one, Snowy and ..."psychological projection for 100$, Alex". |
| Posted by: magpie 2023-07-24 10:43 |
| #5 Poland gettin spicy |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2023-07-24 10:23 |
| #4 re:#3 Because they have no future. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2023-07-24 10:11 |
| #3 This story has been circulating for awhile. Seems like the EU dwells on its past quite a bit. |
| Posted by: Ebbuger Whuque4103 2023-07-24 08:35 |
| #2 Good one Snowy. |
| Posted by: Dale 2023-07-24 03:56 |
| #1 These guys are like the economists who have predicted fourteen of the last two recessions. Snark O'The Day |
| Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2023-07-24 02:00 |