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Didn't live up to expectations
2024-01-08
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Commentary by Russian military journalist Boris Rozhin:

[ColonelCassad] German tanks were created for exercises, but not for real combat operations.
Ouch.
A commission from Germany, which visited a repair center in Lithuania for German tanks delivered to Ukraine, was unpleasantly surprised by the number of equipment that failed due to internal defects in mechanics and electronics. The number of technically defective tanks is comparable to the number destroyed by Russian troops.

There are still problems with lengthy logistics, lack of sufficient spare parts, and poor translation of technical documentation. Even in Lithuania, far from the front line, mechanics are forced to improvise because they simply do not know how to repair German Leopard tanks.

A German officer admitted to Der Spiegel magazine that German tanks wear out much faster in combat conditions than in peacetime.
Doesn’t everything?
Based on the experience of the Bundeswehr in Mali, we can say that a mileage of 10 thousand km in combat conditions is equal to 100 thousand km in peacetime, the officer claims. Added to this is the problem of the need for complex maintenance of German battle tanks, which must be carried out at the factory.

“Attempts at repair by the Ukrainian army lead to additional damage to battle tanks,” concludes one of the members of the German commission that visited Lithuania.
"But we watched a YouTube on DIY tank repair!"
A Ukrainian officer from a unit equipped with Leopard-2 tanks draws Der Spiegel's attention to the fragility of the tank's tracks. Loose track tension leads to breakdowns, which is a disaster in combat conditions. Ukrainian soldiers have to constantly monitor this feature of German tanks.

Strange discoveries, considering that 2/3 of the tanks were initially delivered after repair and restoration. Only Swedish and Norwegian cars were relatively new. The rest were obviously not of the best quality, and except for the very stubborn ones, few of the serious experts here or abroad seriously expected that the Leopards would be successful, including in connection with their reliability in Russian conditions. And we are also talking about “Leopard 2”.

With "Leopard 1" everything is clear. Expecting success from them is the same as expecting that the restored T-62s will seriously change the situation at the front on our side. Well, the Russian army, as expected and routinely, destroyed the reputation of the Leopards and Challengers. The Americans looked at this and do not allow Abrams to be used in active battles. It's a pity - it would be interesting to see what they can actually do, besides participating in colonial wars and ridiculous PR. "Bradley" and "Strikers" have already been shown.

I remember in 2016, when ISIS destroyed a bunch of Turkish Leopards near Al-Bab, everyone blamed it on incompetent Turkish tank crews and stupid Turkish generals who lost a lot of equipment. But as we see, it was not only the problems of the Turkish army.

Posted by:badanov

#10  Reminds me: how many preppers actually stress test their bug out bags and shtf stash?

Similar mindset with the tanks. You better test. I was so surprised when my hand cranks and assorted parts to my shtf gear all broke under normal use. Glad I made the discovery while not suffering any emergency.
Posted by: mossomo   2024-01-08 15:17  

#9  Russian and Ukrainian tankers regard the Leopard IIs and Abrams as lumbering bricks. The T-72 is much lighter, and apparently, much easier to drive.
Posted by: badanov   2024-01-08 14:11  

#8  Maintenance?
When you get it for free,
drive it like you stole it.
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-01-08 13:47  

#7  Based on the experience of the Bundeswehr in Mali, we can say that a mileage of 10 thousand km in combat conditions is equal to 100 thousand km in peacetime, the officer claims.

From what I've been reading here they were lucky if they went more than one or two kilometers.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2024-01-08 12:45  

#6  #5 By conicidence: the two countries globalists would like gone?
Posted by: Grom the Reflective   2024-01-08 11:11  

#5  Gee, who has established success in their designs in actual battlefield operations? I can think of at least two countries.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2024-01-08 11:04  

#4  This is an echo of the Marder IFV's and assault rifles the Germans brought to Afghanistan.
Posted by: ed in texas   2024-01-08 08:48  

#3  ^not necessarily - people with marketable skills were immigrating from Ukraine since "independence".
Posted by: Grom the reflective   2024-01-08 06:55  

#2  Once again the Germans over-engineer themselves into a corner.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2024-01-08 01:10  

#1  “Attempts at repair by the Ukrainian army lead to additional damage to battle tanks,”

Well, color me suprised.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective   2024-01-08 00:56  

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