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| Vatican approves Italian guidelines allowing gay men to become priests |
| 2025-02-02 |
| [Reuters] VATICAN CITY, Jan 10 (Reuters) - The Vatican has approved new guidelines from Italian bishops that allow gay men to enter seminaries as long as they abstain from sex, in an unexpected adjustment to how the global Catholic Church considers possible future priests. Although the Vatican had not explicitly barred gay men from entering the priesthood in the past, an earlier 2016 instruction had said seminaries cannot admit men who have "deep-seated homosexual tendencies". The new guidelines, posted without fanfare on the website of the Italian bishops' conference on Thursday, say seminary directors should consider a priestly candidate's sexual preferences, but only as one aspect of their personality. "When referring to homosexual tendencies in the formation process, it is also appropriate not to reduce the discernment to this aspect alone, but... to understand its meaning within the whole framework of the young person's personality," state the guidelines. |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #20 Fyodor Dostoevsky smiles and refers to his book.. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2025-02-02 23:38 |
| #19 TW__ I blame Paul AKA Saul |
| Posted by: Gleager Peacock5966 2025-02-02 17:37 |
| #18 ^#17 Have to disagree with you on this one. MAN nor WOMAN, has the authority to change the word of GOD. The Old Testament, the Jewish & Christian accepted versions of the word of GOD from creation forward is clear on the subject. |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2025-02-02 17:17 |
| #17 NoMoreBS wins. :-D See Deborah the Prophetess in Judges. A latecomer. ;-) Consider Miriam, the elder sister of Moses and Aaron. Proverbs 31:10-31. Queen Esther, who set herself against the prime minister of the king of the Medes and Persians, and won, saving her people. As described in the book of John: Mary Magdalene was the one charged by Jesus to carry word of his ascension to the disciples. Jewish women do not sit silent and obedient, leaving the men to dictate what to think and do. Nor did the early Christian ones. What changed, that Timothy could say such a thing and be confident of carrying his way? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2025-02-02 14:46 |
| #16 |
| Posted by: NoMoreBS 2025-02-02 14:06 |
| #15 Yet another organization run by human beings, with all that is implied. |
| Posted by: q 2025-02-02 13:46 |
| #14 I'll go with Proverbs 21:19 |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2025-02-02 12:50 |
| #13 Regarding Women Preachers - 1 Timothy 2:11-12 Beware unauthorized additions. See Deborah the Prophetess in Judges. |
| Posted by: Grom the Affective 2025-02-02 11:55 |
| #12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet Yeah, well that's done. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2025-02-02 11:15 |
| #11 While I am far from knowledgeable in the complex business workings that too many religions have become. I do read my bible. If you're a Protestant Christians following KJV Regarding Homosexuality - Genesis 19 Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed, Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination. Regarding Women Bishops - “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). ------------------------- If you're Catholic Regarding Homosexuality - Both Genesis 19 & in Leviticus are both just as clear. No matter what some liberal modern era Pope has said for whatever personal reason ? Regarding Women Preachers - 1 Timothy 2:11-12 -------------------------- If you are Jewish Regarding Homosexuality - Same as Christianity - Leviticus (Leviticus 18:23 and Leviticus 20:13) Regarding Women Preachers - Complex and requires a lot of study. New school vs old school issues. ----------------------------------- |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2025-02-02 10:53 |
| #10 Maybe just catching up with reality? Look at the % of male->female vs. male->male church scandals. |
| Posted by: Mercutio 2025-02-02 09:28 |
| #9 This is how the Boy Scouts organization started to die. Time to wake up. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2025-02-02 07:41 |
| #8 It's much worse than most realize. The Roman Catholic Church has suicided. |
| Posted by: Whiskey Mike 2025-02-02 07:40 |
| #7 The numbers were simply too great. In the end, they just....rolled over. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2025-02-02 07:03 |
| #6 "deep-seated homosexual tendencies". That is a funny line! |
| Posted by: Airandee 2025-02-02 06:57 |
| #5 In direct conflict with the Holy Bible. I guess, if you are a Catholic Church member, you have a religious moral vs family heritage decision ahead of you. |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2025-02-02 04:42 |
| #4 Bold move. Finally coming out of the cabine confessionnelle. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2025-02-02 02:40 |
| #3 Good. Like every other transnational organization nowadays, Catholic Church was taken over by Globalists. So, the more offensive its behavior toward actual Catholics - the higher a chance for a meaningful reform. |
| Posted by: Grom the Affective 2025-02-02 01:54 |
| #2 It was bad idea last time around — about a generation ago. They seemed to finally be cleaning out the last of the pedophiles that came in under that permission. At least this time they know how to recognize and handle the problem, but once again it will be expensive in terms of money and damage to the souls in their keeping. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2025-02-02 01:32 |
| #1 That seems like a bad idea. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2025-02-02 00:43 |
